426 - Andrew Gould - Monks and Pirates: Two Extremes that Explain the Rest of Us

426 - Andrew Gould - Monks and Pirates: Two Extremes that Explain the Rest of Us

In this conversation filmed (by Deacon Seraphim Rohlin) in the Florida Keys, I sit down with my friend Andrew Gould to finally revisit a surprising claim he made years ago—that pirates and Orthodox monks share deep symbolic parallels. We discuss ships and treasure, costumes, death imagery, life on the edge of empire, all converging on how these two seemingly opposite extremes strangely mirror each other. Let me know if you like the format of this video.

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/WjMadP6DScM

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474 - Josh Nadeau - The Return of a Christian Imagination

474 - Josh Nadeau - The Return of a Christian Imagination

In this conversation with Josh Nadeau, we talk about art, beauty, symbolism, and the recovery of a Christian imagination. We explore why traditional art still speaks so powerfully, how beauty can reve...

21 Aug 1h 2min

473 - Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick - Paradise Is Already Breaking Into the World

473 - Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick - Paradise Is Already Breaking Into the World

Story time with Fr. Andrew! In this episode with Fr. Andrew Damick, we explore the symbolism of paradise through a fairy tale, a Norse saga, and the Christian tradition. We look at how the path to par...

19 Aug 1h 29min

472 - Universal History: The Story Gets Stranger After the Flood

472 - Universal History: The Story Gets Stranger After the Flood

Part 4. Deacon Seraphim and I continue our journey through the strange world surrounding Noah, the Flood, and the ancient traditions that grew up around Genesis. We get into the Ark, Adam, Melchizedek...

14 Aug 1h 16min

471 - Martin Shaw - The Odyssey, the Underworld, and Resurrection

471 - Martin Shaw - The Odyssey, the Underworld, and Resurrection

I sat down with Martin Shaw to talk about the underworld and the deep pattern of descent and return. He also gave his own fresh perspective on Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey movie. We explored what i...

10 Aug 51min

470 - What Mockery of Masculinity Really Looks Like: Masters of the Universe VS The Odyssey

470 - What Mockery of Masculinity Really Looks Like: Masters of the Universe VS The Odyssey

In this video, I compare The Odyssey and Masters of the Universe to explore two very different visions of masculinity and heroism. While one reduces masculine strength to fantasy, insecurity, and mock...

6 Aug 21min

469 - Luke Burgis - The One and the Many

469 - Luke Burgis - The One and the Many

It's not hard to find your tribe. The real challenge today is not losing yourself within one. Luke Burgis and I discuss why we struggle as modern people to belong without losing ourselves, how technol...

4 Aug 1h 5min

468 - Universal History: Rohlin vs Pageau: The Problems With Nolan’s Odyssey

468 - Universal History: Rohlin vs Pageau: The Problems With Nolan’s Odyssey

Deacon Seraphim Rohlin joins me for an emergency Universal History episode to debate Christopher Nolan’s adaptation of The Odyssey. We discuss what the film gets right and where it misunderstands the ...

30 Jul 1h 14min

467 - Nolan’s The Odyssey Full Breakdown: The Post World War 2 Consensus Movie We Need

467 - Nolan’s The Odyssey Full Breakdown: The Post World War 2 Consensus Movie We Need

Spoiler alert. In this video, I offer a full symbolic breakdown of Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey, going through the entire film sequence by sequence to examine its use of trickery, guilt, hospitalit...

21 Jul 1h 9min

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