2026 Is Neo Finance's Institutional Breakout Year w Kendall, Alex Zinder, Royal Fool,& Rishabh Gupta
The Rollup25 Jan

2026 Is Neo Finance's Institutional Breakout Year w Kendall, Alex Zinder, Royal Fool,& Rishabh Gupta

DeFi is evolving into something new, "Neo Finance."In today's episode, we sit down with Kendall from Proximity Labs, Alex Zinder from Blockdaemon, Royal Fool from Templar Protocol, and Rishabh Gupta from EncryptTrade to explore how traditional finance is converging with crypto infrastructure.

We discuss:

- Why Isolated Lending Models Will Dominate

- The $100 Trillion Asset Tokenization Wave

- Permissionless vs. Permissioned: What Actually Wins?

- How Chain Abstraction Unlocks Mass Adoption

- Why Privacy Tech Is Critical for Institutions

- NYSE Going 24/7 Onchain: What It Means

- The Neo Finance Supercycle Just StartedFull episode links below.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:21 Neo Finance Framework

03:36 Royal Fool on Isolated Lending

06:35 Alex Zinder's Capital Markets View

08:26 Kendall on Chain Abstraction

11:14 Rishabh on Privacy Infrastructure

12:59 Permissioned vs. Permissionless Debate

18:26 Real Assets Coming Onchain

21:03 Risk Management in Neo Finance

24:02 Halliday, infiniFi, YEET ad

27:12 The Synthesis of TradFi and DeFi

31:45 Liquidity Requirements at Scale

32:13 Trezor, Hibachi, Kalshi Ad

37:42 The Future of Financial Infrastructure

41:05 Closing Thoughts

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Kendall Socials: https://x.com/kendaIIcProximity Socials: https://x.com/proximityfiProximity Website: https://www.proximity.dev/Royal Fool Socials: https://x.com/RoyalF00lTemplar Socials: https://x.com/proximityfiBlockdaemon Socials: https://x.com/BlockdaemonHQ

Blockdaemon Website: t.co/qvZnN3FR2q

Rishabh Socials: https://x.com/rishotics

Encifherio: https://x.com/encifherio-

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