How You're Being With Your Client Matters More Than What You're Doing.

How You're Being With Your Client Matters More Than What You're Doing.

Janina Fisher PhD talks with psychologist Robert Schwarz about energy psychology, EFT tapping, and how curiosity and compassion can guide trauma recovery. Together they explore stabilization, implicit memory, and the healing power of presence in therapy.


Robert Schwarz, PsyD, DCEP, ACAP-EFT, is a licensed psychologist with more than 40 years of clinical experience and a leading voice in the fields of trauma treatment, EFT, and energy psychology. From 2008 to 2024, he served as Executive Director of the Association for Comprehensive Energy Psychology (ACEP), helping to advance the integration of energy psychology into clinical practice.

Over the course of his career, Dr. Schwarz has organized more than 30 professional conferences focused on Ericksonian hypnosis, trauma treatment, and energy psychology. He has also developed and led numerous educational programs, including ACEP’s Science of Energy Healing series and EFT training initiatives.

He is the author of three books, including Tools for Transforming Trauma and We’re No Fun Anymore: Guiding Couples to a Joy-Filled Marriage, as well as numerous articles and professional publications. Most recently, he launched the online training program Transforming Trauma and Limiting Beliefs with EFT.

An internationally recognized speaker, Dr. Schwarz presents workshops and keynotes on trauma treatment, EFT, and energy psychology. He is known for translating complex concepts into practical, immediately applicable clinical skills within an integrative therapeutic framework.

Beyond his professional work, Bob is passionate about creativity, joy, and human connection. He nurtures these values through music, songwriting, and improvisational theater, and believes they are essential ingredients for a meaningful life.

https://www.doctor-bob.com/

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You Want Closeness. So Why Does It Scare You?

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23 Sep 44min

When Good Therapists Cross Boundaries

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In this reflective episode of In Conversation with Janina Fisher, Janina sits down with pioneering trauma clinician, researcher, and author Dr. Christine Courtois to look back on the evolution of trau...

19 Aug 46min

All Communication is Communication

All Communication is Communication

A thoughtful exploration of neurodivergence, creativity, and the transformative power of seeing clients not as problems to solve, but as people whose worlds are worth entering.In this engaging and dee...

12 Aug 36min

What If the Chemistry of Love Is Also the Chemistry of Trauma?

What If the Chemistry of Love Is Also the Chemistry of Trauma?

In this episode of In Conversation with Janina Fisher, Janina sits down with pioneering neuroscientist Sue Carter, whose groundbreaking work has transformed how we understand attachment, bonding, and ...

5 Aug 47min

What If Your Therapist Doesn’t Know They’re “Unsafe”?

What If Your Therapist Doesn’t Know They’re “Unsafe”?

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22 Jul 42min

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What If Calm Feels Worse Than Crisis?

In this candid and thought-provoking episode of In Conversation with Janina Fisher, Janina sits down with somatic therapist, educator, and founder of The Embody Lab, Dr. Scott Lyons, for a wide-rangin...

15 Jul 40min

Your Left Brain Says You're Fine. Your Right Brain Knows You're Not.

Your Left Brain Says You're Fine. Your Right Brain Knows You're Not.

In this fascinating episode of In Conversation with Janina Fisher, Janina Fisher sits down with psychiatrist and neuroscientist Fredric Schiffer to explore a provocative question: can trauma be unders...

8 Jul 28min

Healing the World, Healing Ourselves

Healing the World, Healing Ourselves

In this timely and thought-provoking conversation, Janina Fisher sits down with somatic therapist, activist, author, and social change leader Staci Haines to explore the profound relationship between ...

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