Grief Is Love With Nowhere to Go | Zulma “The Swearing Therapist” Williams
Unparented3 Sep 2025

Grief Is Love With Nowhere to Go | Zulma “The Swearing Therapist” Williams

What happens when you lose both parents as an adult, one unexpectedly and one during a pandemic?

In this episode of Unparented: A Dead Parents Club Podcast, I sit down with Zulma Williams, better known as @theswearingtherapist, to talk about grief in its rawest form. Zulma shares her story of losing her mom and dad within seven years, navigating cancer, depression, and abusive relationships, and still finding her way back to resilience.

She reminds us that grief is love with nowhere to go, and that there is nothing to “get over.” Instead, we can choose how to honor our loved ones through memory, rituals, or simply carrying their presence with us. Zulma also shares powerful insights on why grief groups matter, how each sibling loses a different version of the same parent, and why we need to stop comparing the way we grieve.

If you have ever felt like your grief did not look like anyone else’s, this conversation will make you feel less alone.

Learn more about Robert DelFave’s grief coaching and writing

Website: robertdelfave.com
Grief coaching: robertdelfave.com/coaching
Schedule a complimentary Grief Map Session: Book a Grief Map Session
The Other Side of This: robertdelfave.com/book
Contact: hello@robertdelfave.com

The Carried Forward Podcast is hosted by Robert DelFave, grief coach, David Kessler Certified Grief Educator, and author of The Other Side of This.

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