Fei-Fei Li: In 10 Years There Will Be Only 2 Kinds of Workers

Dr. Fei-Fei Li created ImageNet — the dataset that triggered the deep learning revolution. Now she runs World Labs, where she just raised $1 billion to teach AI something it still can't do: understand physical space. She was named Time Person of the Year in 2025 and won the Queen Elizabeth Prize for Engineering.

David Rogier founded MasterClass in 2015 on the idea that everyone should have access to world-class teachers. He has an MBA from Stanford and now builds all his own work tools with Claude Code instead of buying software — including a to-do list app that auto-deletes anything sitting on the list for more than a day and a half.

In this episode, we get into what AI can already do and what it still can't, why the two loudest takes on AI — that it'll save the world, and that it'll take all the jobs — are both wrong, and what your kids' schooling and your own career actually look like in 10 years.

We cover:

• Why Fei-Fei Li says "the cost of intelligence goes to zero" is an irresponsible claim — and what human intelligence actually includes beyond language
• Spatial intelligence: the four things AI still can't do (understand, reason about, generate, and interact with 3D space) — and why World Labs is betting $1B on it
• The barbell effect in the workforce: why being "decent" at anything isn't enough anymore, and the two roles that will thrive — top 1% specialists and high-agency generalists
• Why AI tutoring delivers the same learning in 60% less time — and why the real obstacle to changing education isn't the technology
• David's full CEO stack: custom apps he built himself, "Davidify" — his own AI clone he gave his team — and why he stopped buying software
• The one thing to do when an employee is scared to try AI: sit down with them, not send a YouTube link
• What the job of product manager looks like today vs. five years ago — and why Fei-Fei only hires PMs who are riding the wave
• Fei-Fei's advice for non-tech professionals: find someone under 25 and let them show you their world for a weekend
• How long until AI handles the laundry — Fei-Fei's actual estimate

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