Ep 8: Anthropic's "Too Dangerous" Model Is Coming for Everyone

Ep 8: Anthropic's "Too Dangerous" Model Is Coming for Everyone

Six weeks ago Anthropic said a model was too dangerous to ship. This week they shipped Opus 4.8 and said Mythos-class models reach every customer soon. Was it ever that dangerous? We make the call.


Human In the Loop is a weekly podcast where two builders cut through the AI hype cycle. No hype, no doomerism, no recaps.


SIGNAL OR NOISE

- Claude Opus 4.8, near-Mythos alignment and Dynamic Workflows that run up to 1,000 subagents

- Anthropic passes OpenAI, a new round values it near $1 trillion

- Cognition raises $1B at $26B for Devin

- A poisoned Nx Console extension stole Claude Code configs and cloned 3,800 GitHub repos

- Pope Leo XIV's first encyclical takes on AI


SHIP IT OR SKIP IT

Three real ideas. One host pitches, the other pushes back. No fence-sitting.

1. The Company Brain (My First Million Ep 822)

2. Voice AI agent for the trades (Avoca's $125M raise)

3. Stripe for AI agents (Circle Agent Stack)


HOT TAKES

Oscar: "Too dangerous to ship" was never a safety call. It was a 90-day enterprise head start.

Matt: Devin at $26B is the top, not the floor. An agent lab with no distribution is the WeWork of 2026.


Key links:

- Opus 4.8: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-8

- Anthropic tops OpenAI: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/28/anthropic-open-ai-startup-value.html

- CISA Nx breach: https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/alerts/2026/05/28/supply-chain-compromises-impact-nx-console-and-github-repositories


Hosts: Oscar Gallo (AI Engineer & Entrepreneur) and Matt Wozniak (Builder, Operator). New episodes every week.

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