#14 - David Bronner: The Soap CEO Spearheading Psychedelics

#14 - David Bronner: The Soap CEO Spearheading Psychedelics

David Bronner is the CEO – that’s Cosmic Engagement Officer – of Dr. Bronner’s, a fifth-generation soap maker, and a board member of the Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies. At the helm of the company started by his grandfather in 1948, David is a leader in the fight for GMO labeling, industrial hemp farming in the United States, high-bar organic and fair trade standards, fair minimum wage, and drug policy reform.

What we discuss:

  • How a profound psychedelic experience took David from an apolitical college graduate and set him on the path to becoming a counter cultural thought leader

  • I ask him What it means to be passionate about “the responsible integration of psychedelic medicine into American culture” – especially within the capitalistic framework within which we exist

  • Dr. Bronner being the first company in the U.S. to offer ketamine-assisted therapy as part of employee health coverage

  • How David found iboga through his friend and former Navy SEAL Marcus Capone

  • What iboga/ibogaine can do for the veteran population

  • Will we see the mainstreaming of ibogaine like we have with psilocybin?

  • What David’s favorite integration tools are

  • Parallels between the overharvesting of certain plant medicines and industrial agriculture

Why it’s important:

Given all the ongoing evil in the world, it can be easy to feel swallowed up by capitalism – to feel stuck, hopeless, and afraid for the future. My conversation with David reminded me that even within an ill-structured system, it takes just a few people in positions of leadership – people like David and David’s father and grandfather – to spark change and inspire more holistic business practices, and ultimately, more holistic ways of living.

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