061: EFT vs. RLT Debate with Figs O'Sullivan

061: EFT vs. RLT Debate with Figs O'Sullivan

In this episode, Emotionally Focused Therapist, Figs O'Sullivan, conceptualizes a case from the standpoint of working from the EFT perspective. Relational Life Therapist, Shane Birkel, talks about how an RLT therapist would work with the same couple. Figs and Shane talk through some of the similarities and differences in the two approaches and how they view couples cases that come in for therapy.

Figs is a Couples Therapist in San Francisco and the creator of the relationship quiz, Empathi. He has studied various couples therapy modalities, but is particularly dedicated to Emotionally Focused Therapy.

The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week. There is an episode released every Tuesday about the practice of couples therapy.

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Check out Figs's practice website at therapywithfigs.com

Check out the relationship quiz Figs created at Emaphi.com

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295: Why You Keep Reacting That Way and How to Stop with Shane Birkel

295: Why You Keep Reacting That Way and How to Stop with Shane Birkel

This episode is brought to you by Alma. Visit https://helloalma.com/dg/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=privatepractice to learn more Get the Couples Therapy 101 course: https://www.c...

18 Aug 40min

294: Attachment Styles with Annie Chen

294: Attachment Styles with Annie Chen

This episode is brought to you by Alma. Visit https://helloalma.com/dg/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=privatepractice to learn more Get the Couples Therapy 101 course: https://www.c...

13 Aug 48min

293: Surviving Betrayal with LaDonna Carey

293: Surviving Betrayal with LaDonna Carey

This episode is brought to you by Alma. Visit https://helloalma.com/dg/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=privatepractice to learn more Get the Couples Therapy 101 course: https://www.c...

17 Jul 46min

292: It's Not about the Dishes with Shane Birkel

292: It's Not about the Dishes with Shane Birkel

This episode is brought to you by Alma. Visit https://helloalma.com/dg/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=privatepractice to learn more Sign up for the June 2026 Cohort of Shane's Certi...

19 Jun 31min

291: Truth & Love with Shane Birkel

291: Truth & Love with Shane Birkel

This episode is brought to you by Alma. Visit https://helloalma.com/dg/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=privatepractice to learn more Sign up for the June 2026 Cohort of Shane's Certi...

5 Jun 42min

290: Embracing Your Couples Therapist Identity with Susan Saint-Rossy

290: Embracing Your Couples Therapist Identity with Susan Saint-Rossy

This episode is brought to you by Alma. Visit https://helloalma.com/dg/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=privatepractice to learn more Sign up for the June 2026 Cohort of Shane's Certi...

20 Mai 43min

289: Working with Couples Who Get Escalated with Shane Birkel

289: Working with Couples Who Get Escalated with Shane Birkel

This episode is brought to you by Alma. Visit https://helloalma.com/dg/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=privatepractice to learn more Sign up for the June 2026 Cohort of Shane's Certi...

28 Apr 23min

288: Relationship Repair with Shane Birkel

288: Relationship Repair with Shane Birkel

This episode is brought to you by Alma. Visit https://helloalma.com/dg/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=privatepractice to learn more Sign up for the June 2026 Cohort of Shane's Certi...

21 Apr 27min

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