On Why “Pain Don’t Hurt” and What It Takes to Overcome Extraordinary Obstacles
The Rich Roll Podcast13 Okt 2014

On Why “Pain Don’t Hurt” and What It Takes to Overcome Extraordinary Obstacles

Life throws all of us obstacles. Everyone meets barriers. Nobody is immune from setbacks. It’s how we confront and navigate past the curve balls life throws that moulds character and ultimately defines who we really are. Do you crumble or rise to the challenge? Do you shrink down and become the victim? Or do you stand tall and walk through adversity like a warrior? And what do you do if everything just goes to shit? You are hard pressed to find a man who has met so much adversity with such a grounded sense of purpose and honest willingness to share about it as Mark Miller. Meet Fightshark. Just make sure you check your grousing at the door. Born with both Type-1 Diabetes and a congenital heart defect (CHD), Mark was reared by the back hand of an alcoholic abusive father. A World War II vet and notable professional athlete who played in the very fist NBA game ever, “Moose” Miller was a domineering force of nature who experienced the world as a dark, unfair and often violent place – and made sure he prepared his son accordingly. To escape the emotional and physical violence that greeted him at home, Mark immersed himself in the world of sports at a very young age. Thrown into a boxing gym at age 6, he quickly adapted, eventually mastering every sport imaginable by the time he finished high school. During his free time he worked in the Pittsburgh Steelers locker room (from age six through high school), grabbing towels, taking grief and learning about sport and life from the hand of legends like Lynn Swann, Mel Blount, Jack Ham and Mean Joe Greene while also working on his pitching with guys like Barry Bonds. All champions that in some sense served surrogate dad duty for this evolving teen. By the time he was 18, Mark was poised to go professional as a major league pitcher. But Mark had other plans – he wanted to become a professional kickboxer. By 2007, Mark was a rising star in this emerging sport until a routine physical uncovered a serious cardiac condition that required open-heart surgery to replace his aortic valve. The crisis helped to temporarily reunite his fractured family. But everybody thought Mark's fighting days were over. Once again, Mark had other plans — the surgery just made him more determined than ever to return to the kickboxing ring. Astounded by the rapid rate at which Mark's heart healed, his doctors gave him the green light to resume training. Everything in Mark's life seemed to be getting back on track. But 2008 had little respect for Mark's plans. Over the course of that year, Mark lost both his parents and his drug addict brother to an overdose. A confluence of events that led Mark to lose himself in drugs and alcohol, culminating in a boozy accident that hurled his already fractured and fragile body through a car windshield and onto hard unforgiving Austin, Texas pavement. Eventually, Mark found the wherewithal to get and stay sober. Renewed, he set his sights once again on his kickboxing comeback. Despite being labeled damaged goods, in 2011 Mark returned to the ring in Moscow and shocked the fight world when he took out one of the world’s best with a knockout in just 8 seconds. To this day, Fightshark is the first and only combat sport athlete to return to competition after undergoing open heart surgery. Fast forward to 2013. Just prior to his fight debut in storied Madison Square Garden, Mark contracted pneumonia, which set in motion a devastating domino effect of health cataclysms that have left him with chronic kidney failure, blindness in one eye, and the need for not one but three organ transplants: heart, pancreas and kidney. Mark is currently fighting for his life. Literally.

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Rhett & Link On Building A (Mythical) Media Empire, The Price of Public Friendship, & Leaving The Evangelical Church

Rhett & Link On Building A (Mythical) Media Empire, The Price of Public Friendship, & Leaving The Evangelical Church

Rhett McLaughlin and Link Neal are the creators of Good Mythical Morning, one of YouTube's most-watched daily shows with over 19 million subscribers and 8 billion views. This conversation explores their 40-year friendship, spiritual deconstruction from evangelical Christianity, the soul cost of YouTube's algorithm, their self-funded series Wonderhole, and what happens when your best friend is also your business partner. We talk faith, the strain on family life, and the challenge of building an empire without losing your humanity. Along the way, they reveal how their deconstruction ultimately saved their friendship. Rhett and Link have built something incredibly inspiring.  And their story is still unfolding. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉https://www.on.com/richroll                                                                    Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off your first order of a website or domain 👉https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll     AG1: Get a FREE bottle of D3K2, Welcome Kit, and 5 travel packs with your first order 👉https://www.drinkAG1.com/richroll                                             BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉 https://www.betterhelp.com/richroll           Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉https://www.rivian.com Momentous: High-caliber human performance products for sleep, focus, longevity, and more. For listeners of the show, Momentous is offering up to 35% off your first order made through👉 https://www.LiveMomentous.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 https://www.richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media  and follow us@voicingchange

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Jay Duplass & Michael Strassner On The Art of Creative Rebellion

Jay Duplass & Michael Strassner On The Art of Creative Rebellion

Jay Duplass is an award-winning filmmaker, actor, and co-architect of the mumblecore movement. Michael Strassner is a comedian, actor, and the protagonist of Jay's new film "The Baltimorons." This conversation explores Jay's first solo directing effort in 14 years, Michael's journey from rock bottom to seven years of sobriety, and how they created a transcendent film for less than the cost of an LA permit. We discuss creative authenticity versus Hollywood cynicism, why early sobriety rarely gets screen time, and how serving someone else's story might save your own. In the process, we dissect how cultural mythology is built through storytelling and why flawed humans make better protagonists than superheroes. These two are creating equipment for living. What unfolds is a love letter to persistence. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% OFF your first order 👉https://www.seed.com/RichRoll25                           Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off your first order of a website or domain 👉https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll     Bon Charge Get 15% OFF all my favorite wellness products w/ code RICHROLL 👉https://www.boncharge.com                                                           Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL 👉https://www.ROKA.com/RICHROLL            The Sprouting Company: Get 10% off and a free copy of "The Sprout Book" with code RICHROLL 👉https://www.thesproutingcompany.com/pages/richroll On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉https://www.on.com/richroll               Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 https://www.richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media  and follow us@voicingchange

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The Human Brain: Leading Experts On Preventing Cognitive Decline, Understanding Addiction, The Neurochemistry of Spirituality & The Mind-Body Connection

The Human Brain: Leading Experts On Preventing Cognitive Decline, Understanding Addiction, The Neurochemistry of Spirituality & The Mind-Body Connection

Dr. Andrew Huberman, Drs. Ayesha and Dean Sherzai, Dr. Anna Lembke, Dr. Lisa Miller, and Dr. David Spiegel are researchers exploring the mysteries of our most enigmatic organ. This compilation reveals how three pounds of tissue controls everything—from the vascular networks that determine cognitive destiny to the neurochemistry that drives addiction. Why 97% of Alzheimer's cases aren't inevitable, how dopamine traps us, what happens during spiritual experiences, and why hypnosis works. These insights offer understanding of the neural mechanisms that shape every moment of your existence. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉https://www.on.com/richroll                                Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL 👉https://www.ROKA.com/RICHROLL Mint Mobile: Get your 3-month Unlimited plan for just $15/month 👉 https://www.mintmobile.com/richroll AG1: Get a FREE bottle of D3K2, Welcome Kit, and 5 travel packs with your first order 👉https://www.drinkAG1.com/richroll Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉https://www.rivian.com Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 https://www.richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media  and follow us@voicingchange

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Me, But Better: Olga Khazan On The Science of Personality Change, Challenging Fixed Mindsets, & The Big Five Traits That Shape Your Life

Me, But Better: Olga Khazan On The Science of Personality Change, Challenging Fixed Mindsets, & The Big Five Traits That Shape Your Life

Olga Khazan is a staff writer for The Atlantic and author of "Me, But Better." This conversation explores personality mutability and Olga's experiment to transform from anxious introvert to someone freed from her own patterns. We discuss the Big Five traits, her Miami breakdown that sparked everything, and why anxiety isn't actually your superpower. Along the way, we examine the paradox of self-acceptance. This exchange is about agency, transformation, and why we amplify our suffering. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: Lincoln Financial: Check out the NEW 4-part series "The Action Plan"👉https://www.lincolnfinancial.com/richroll                                                    On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉https://www.on.com/richroll              AG1: Get a FREE bottle of D3K2, Welcome Kit, and 5 travel packs with your first order 👉https://www.drinkAG1.com/richroll Birch Living:  Sustainable mattresses with a 100-night risk-free trial. For 20% off site-wide visit BirchLiving.com/richroll. BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month 👉 https://www.betterhelp.com/richroll WHOOP: The all-new WHOOP 5.0 is here! Get your first month FREE👉https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll   Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 https://www.richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media  and follow us@voicingchange

25 Aug 20252h 12min

Addiction, Celebrity, Public Shaming & Truth: The Performance Art of James Frey, Celebrated Writer of Ill-Repute

Addiction, Celebrity, Public Shaming & Truth: The Performance Art of James Frey, Celebrated Writer of Ill-Repute

James Frey is the author of "A Million Little Pieces," a book that spoke to the deepest, darkest parts of countless readers in early recovery. This conversation explores his journey to become literature's bad boy, his heroes like Baudelaire and Henry Miller, and his philosophy of "prowling with the panther." We discuss the intersection of creativity and the Tao, where inspiration comes from, and his unique approach to capturing vitality on the page. Along the way, James recounts a few things he's never shared publicly. This is a manifesto on the importance of muscular books written by authors with courage. Buckle up. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: Go Brewing: Use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF 👉https://www.gobrewing.com On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉https://www.on.com/richroll              Momentous: Save 35% OFF your first subscription order 👉https://www.livemomentous.com/richroll                              Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL 👉https://www.ROKA.com/RICHROLL            BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉 https://www.betterhelp.com/richroll Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉https://www.rivian.com Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 https://www.richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media  and follow us@voicingchange

18 Aug 20252h 34min

ROLL ON: The State of Podcasting In 2025

ROLL ON: The State of Podcasting In 2025

Roll On resurfaces from the chrysalis! Adam Skolnick and I unpack 90 days post-surgery, why the caterpillar needs a tortoise mind to become a butterfly, and the death of authentic podcasting. On tap: The state of Podcastistan, why I'm breaking up with viral culture, and the unexpected joy of moving at glacier pace. We explore Phil Stutz's three truths, Alaska's last frontier vibes, and why Deadwood still hits different. Plus: Movies are officially back, friends of the pod crushing impossible distances—because regular suffering is passé—and why community beats audience every damn time. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: LMNT: Get a free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase 👉 https://www.drinklmnt.com/richroll                                                                                  Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% OFF your first order 👉https://www.seed.com/RichRoll25 Pique: Get up to 20% OFF plus a FREE rechargeable frother and glass beaker with your first subscription 👉https://www.piquelife.com/richroll Momentous: Save 35% OFF your first subscription order 👉https://www.livemomentous.com/richroll   Calm: Get 40% off a Calm Premium subscription 👉 https://www.calm.com/richroll Prolon: Get 15% OFF plus a FREE bonus gift 👉 https://www.prolonlife.com/richroll Mint Mobile: Get your 3-month Unlimited plan for just $15/month 👉 https://www.mintmobile.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 https://www.richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media  and follow us@voicingchange

14 Aug 20251h 35min

Inside Nutrition Misinformation: Nutrition Scientist Jessica Knurick Exposes What's Really Happening to Public Health in America

Inside Nutrition Misinformation: Nutrition Scientist Jessica Knurick Exposes What's Really Happening to Public Health in America

This conversation explores the war on science, the misdirection of the MAHA movement, and what's happening to public health while everyone argues about food dyes. We discuss how a $1.1 trillion healthcare cut happened under the radar, why "seed oils" didn't exist until TikTok invented them, and Jessica's systemic solutions for actually making America healthy. Additionally, she explains how health misinformation has become a profitable fear machine. Jessica brings compassionate clarity to the current health policy landscape. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors:  Go Brewing: Use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF 👉https://www.gobrewing.com Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off your first order of a website or domain 👉https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll     Lincoln Financial: Check out the NEW 4-part series "The Action Plan"👉https://www.lincolnfinancial.com/richroll                                                             AG1: Get a FREE bottle of D3K2, Welcome Kit, and 5 travel packs with your first order 👉https://www.drinkAG1.com/richroll                                             Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL 👉https://www.ROKA.com/RICHROLL            On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉https://www.on.com/richroll              WHOOP: The all-new WHOOP 5.0 is here! Get your first month FREE👉https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll                        Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 https://www.richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media  and follow us@voicingchange

11 Aug 20252h

Inner Excellence: Jim Murphy On Overcoming Mental Blocks, Mastering The Ego, Success Through Selflessness & The Pillars of Extraordinary Performance

Inner Excellence: Jim Murphy On Overcoming Mental Blocks, Mastering The Ego, Success Through Selflessness & The Pillars of Extraordinary Performance

Jim Murphy is the author of "Inner Excellence," a book compelling enough that NFL players read it during playoff games. This conversation explores Jim's counterintuitive thesis that selflessness, not ego, is the foundation of fearless performance. We discuss his journey from mental breakdown to spiritual awakening, his five years of solitude in the desert, and why self-centeredness is our greatest obstacle to both peak performance and fulfillment. Along the way, Jim reveals my own attachment to outcomes and the transactional relationship I have with love. Jim's wisdom is hard-won. This conversation is powerful. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: Bon Charge Get 15% OFF all my favorite wellness products w/ code RICHROLL 👉https://www.boncharge.com                                         Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off your first order of a website or domain 👉https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll     BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉 https://www.betterhelp.com/richroll           On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉https://www.on.com/richroll              Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% OFF your first order👉https://www.seed.com/RichRoll Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉https://www.rivian.com   Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 https://www.richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media  and follow us@voicingchange

4 Aug 20252h 7min

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