The Paradox of Passion With Brad Stulberg & Steve Magness

The Paradox of Passion With Brad Stulberg & Steve Magness

Follow your passion. For many it's a mantra. For others, an over-hyped trope. I plead guilty to advocating this pursuit — a subject worthy of frequent exploration on the podcast. But is a life propelled by passion always the best course of action? The answer, it turns out, is complicated. Passion can be a gift. But only if you know how to properly channel it. The same drive that fuels breakthroughs — whether they're athletic, scientific, entrepreneurial, or artistic — can be every bit as destructive as it is productive. Unchecked by balance (that other culturally touted virtue), passion can manifest as a curse, leading to endless seeking, suffering, and burnout. Simply put, passion is a paradox. To demystify this important subject, my friends Brad Stulberg and Steve Magness return to the podcast (their 1st appearance was RRP 293 back in June 2017) to explore how to develop, harness and express the right kind of passion to unlock potential and actualize a meaningful, purpose-driven life. Long time listeners might recall Steve as a former elite track & field athlete who clocked an extraordinary 4:01 mile in high school. Today, Steve is one of the most accomplished, respected and in demand track & field and cross country coaches in the world. In addition to serving up duties at the University of Houston, he is the personal coach to some of the most accomplished professional and Olympic runners on the planet. In addition, he consults with start-up technology companies on innovation and growth, holds a Master’s degree in Exercise Science from George Mason University, and serves as an adjunct professor at St. Mary’s University in the United Kingdom. Brad is a former McKinsey & Co. health care consultant turned writer specializing in the health and science of human performance. Lauded for his ability to merge the latest science with compelling personal stories and practical insights, his work has been published in The New York Times, Outside Magazine, New York Magazine, Forbes, NPR, The Los Angeles Times & Runner’s World. Together, Steve and Brad are the co-authors of Peak Performance: Elevate Your Game, Avoid Burnout, and Thrive with the New Science of Success*, a science-based primer on the principles that drive and sustain high performance in sport, business and life. This week marks the publication of their latest collaboration, aptly titled The Passion Paradox: A Guide to Going All In, Finding Success, and Discovering the Benefits of an Unbalanced Life*. A fascinating look int0 the science behind passion and it’s double-edge-sword nature, it's a must read for anyone searching for that spark or how to best harness its magical powers to unlock inner potential. Today's conversation is a wide-ranging exploration into the very nature of passion. Chock-a-block with scientific takeaways & experiential insights, we examine the pros and cons of this intoxicating impulse. Enjoy! Rich

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Live Through Your Heart: Supermodel Elle Macpherson On Building Confidence, 20+ Years of Sobriety, Natural Wellness, & Learning to Trust Yourself

Live Through Your Heart: Supermodel Elle Macpherson On Building Confidence, 20+ Years of Sobriety, Natural Wellness, & Learning to Trust Yourself

Elle Macpherson is a record-breaking Sports Illustrated cover model, pioneering entrepreneur, and the ineffable force behind the global wellness empire WelleCo.   This conversation explores the intersection of intuition and business acumen, chronicling Elle’s iconoclastic journey from supermodel to mogul. We discuss her audacious choices, from walking away from Ford Models to build her own agency to following her heart’s wisdom in health decisions. Through stories of sobriety, spirituality, and transformation, Elle reveals how inner knowing can triumph over convention.   In doing so, she offers profound insights on the philosophical tension between expertise and inner wisdom that exists in all of us.   This exchange with Elle is raw, honest, and deeply resonant. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Bon Charge: Get 15% OFF all my favorite wellness products w/ code RICHROLL 👉 boncharge.com  On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll Squarespace: Use the code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain 👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

3 Feb 1h 57min

Win The Inside Game: High Performance Psychology, Busting Fitness Myths, & Getting Unstuck With Elite Coach Steve Magness

Win The Inside Game: High Performance Psychology, Busting Fitness Myths, & Getting Unstuck With Elite Coach Steve Magness

Steve Magness is a renowned performance expert and author of “Win the Inside Game,” who has dedicated his career to examining why we often calcify into patterns that no longer serve us.   This conversation explores how our modern obsession with achievement often leads to self-sabotage. Through the aperture of his journey from elite runner to pioneering coach, Steve offers a framework for sustainable excellence that emphasizes internal growth over external validation.   Steve reveals how social media hijacks our basic needs, why group identity threatens individual growth, and what it truly means to win the inside game.   This is a masterclass in moving beyond surviving to genuinely thriving. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Pique: Get up to 20% OFF plus a FREE rechargeable frother and glass beaker with your first purchase 👉🏾 piquelife.com/richroll On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll Rocket Money: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money 👉 RocketMoney.com/RICHROLL. Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

30 Jan 2h 16min

The 5 Types of Wealth: Sahil Bloom On Why Time, Friends, Mind & Body Always Come Before Money

The 5 Types of Wealth: Sahil Bloom On Why Time, Friends, Mind & Body Always Come Before Money

Sahil Bloom is a Stanford athlete turned finance executive whose life took an unexpected turn when a friend's observation catalyzed a complete reevaluation of success. This conversation explores his perspective on wealth, which transcends traditional metrics to embrace a more expansive definition of abundance. We discuss his framework of the Five Types of Wealth, the power of tiny actions to reshape destiny, and how to deploy your attention toward what truly matters. He shares profound insights on nourishing relationships, differentiating between urgent and essential, and finding purpose through service. Sahil is wise beyond his years. Enjoy! Note: In celebration of Sahil's appearance on the podcast, we're giving away three signed copies of his transformative book. Subscribe to the newsletter at richroll.com/subscribe for a chance to win. Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Momentous: 20% OFF all of my favorite products  👉livemomentous.com/richroll On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL  👉ROKA.com/RICHROLL Calm: Get get 40% off a Calm Premium subscription 👉 calm.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

27 Jan 2h 2min

Introducing Feel Better, Live More: The Secret To A Happy Life With Eliud Kipchoge (The World’s Fastest Man)

Introducing Feel Better, Live More: The Secret To A Happy Life With Eliud Kipchoge (The World’s Fastest Man)

Today I’m sharing an episode of Feel Better, Live More hosted by Dr. Rangan Chatterjee. In this episode, Dr. Chatterjee sits down with Eliud Kipchoge, the legendary Kenyan long-distance runner who became the first person to run a sub-two-hour marathon. Subscribe to Feel Better, Live More on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

23 Jan 1h 43min

Dr. Rhonda Patrick On Why Exercise Fuels The Brain, How Microplastics Poison The Body, & The Science Of Fitness

Dr. Rhonda Patrick On Why Exercise Fuels The Brain, How Microplastics Poison The Body, & The Science Of Fitness

Dr. Rhonda Patrick is a renowned scientist, researcher, and the founder of FoundMyFitness. This conversation explores how exercise enhances brain function—upending old beliefs about lactate—while examining new research on microplastics’ accumulation in our bodies and practical ways to protect ourselves. In the process, Rhonda helps me understand my own relationship with exercise intensity and chronic exposure to environmental toxins. As always, Rhonda provides fascinating insights along with practical wisdom. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% OFF your first order 👉seed.com/RichRoll Go Brewing: Use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF  👉gobrewing.com Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL  👉ROKA.com/RICHROLL Squarespace: Use the offer code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase  👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll Birch: For 27% off ALL mattresses and 2 free eco-rest pillows 👉BirchLiving.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

20 Jan 2h 46min

U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy’s Final Prescription for America

U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy’s Final Prescription for America

Vice Admiral Dr. Vivek Murthy is America’s Surgeon General, a visionary public health leader, and architect of groundbreaking initiatives addressing loneliness and youth mental health.   This conversation—likely his final interview in office—reveals how disconnection underlies our growing health challenges. We explore the parental mental health crisis, the impact of social media on youth, and his powerful parting prescription for America: choose community. While his recent landmark advisory on alcohol warning labels came after our recording, we delve into his vision for healing by rebuilding connection.    Dr. Murthy offers us medicine for what ails us. This one is special. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll This episode is brought to you by Better Help: Listeners get 10% off their first month 👉BetterHelp.com/RICHROLL Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

16 Jan 2h

Slow, Stop, & Reverse Aging: Peter Diamandis On Longevity Protocols, Lifestyle Medicine, & Optimizing Healthspan

Slow, Stop, & Reverse Aging: Peter Diamandis On Longevity Protocols, Lifestyle Medicine, & Optimizing Healthspan

Peter Diamandis is a renowned physician, futurist, and the founder of XPRIZE, whose paradigm-shifting work transforms our understanding of aging and human potential. This conversation delves into the duality of our longevity revolution: the simple, actionable tools accessible to anyone today, and the bold technologies that could reshape our future. From innovative diagnostics to organ regeneration, Peter details why this decade might fundamentally alter our relationship with aging. Along the way, we examine practical health strategies and the philosophical implications of extending human healthspan. Peter is the ultimate optimist. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Momentous: 20% OFF all of my favorite products  👉livemomentous.com/richroll Go Brewing: Use code Rich Roll for 15% OFF  👉gobrewing.com LMNT: Get a FREE Sample Pack with any drink mix purchase👉drinkLMNT.com/RICHROLL OneSkin: Get 15% off with the code RICHROLL 👉oneskin.co Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

13 Jan 1h 57min

The (Not So) Subtle Art Of Mark Manson: The Truth About Self-Help, Transformation, & Life Advice That Doesn’t Suck

The (Not So) Subtle Art Of Mark Manson: The Truth About Self-Help, Transformation, & Life Advice That Doesn’t Suck

Mark Manson is a renowned author and cultural critic, known for “The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck”—a global phenomenon that has remained on the NYT bestseller list for an unprecedented 328 weeks.   This conversation explores the paradox between genuine growth and modern self-help culture. We discuss Mark’s dramatic transformation, his contrarian views on personal development, why being intelligent often hinders change, and how the most effective solutions in life are typically the boring ones no one wants to hear about.   In today’s metrics-driven landscape, he reveals how to navigate content creation with integrity.   Mark is endlessly insightful. This one is profound and irreverently fun. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Nordic Track: Take 10% off any purchase of $999+ with code RICHROLL 👉nordictrack.com/rich-roll Squarespace: Use the offer code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase  👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll Calm: Get 40% off a Calm Premium subscription 👉calm.com/richroll. Bon Charge: Use code RICHROLL to save 15% OFF boncharge.com Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

6 Jan 1h 57min

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