#189 – Rachel Glennerster on why we still don’t have vaccines that could save millions

#189 – Rachel Glennerster on why we still don’t have vaccines that could save millions

"You can’t charge what something is worth during a pandemic. So we estimated that the value of one course of COVID vaccine in January 2021 was over $5,000. They were selling for between $6 and $40. So nothing like their social value. Now, don’t get me wrong. I don’t think that they should have charged $5,000 or $6,000. That’s not ethical. It’s also not economically efficient, because they didn’t cost $5,000 at the marginal cost. So you actually want low price, getting out to lots of people.

"But it shows you that the market is not going to reward people who do the investment in preparation for a pandemic — because when a pandemic hits, they’re not going to get the reward in line with the social value. They may even have to charge less than they would in a non-pandemic time. So prepping for a pandemic is not an efficient market strategy if I’m a firm, but it’s a very efficient strategy for society, and so we’ve got to bridge that gap." —Rachel Glennerster

In today’s episode, host Luisa Rodriguez speaks to Rachel Glennerster — associate professor of economics at the University of Chicago and a pioneer in the field of development economics — about how her team’s new Market Shaping Accelerator aims to leverage market forces to drive innovations that can solve pressing world problems.

Links to learn more, highlights, and full transcript.

They cover:

  • How market failures and misaligned incentives stifle critical innovations for social goods like pandemic preparedness, climate change interventions, and vaccine development.
  • How “pull mechanisms” like advance market commitments (AMCs) can help overcome these challenges — including concrete examples like how one AMC led to speeding up the development of three vaccines which saved around 700,000 lives in low-income countries.
  • The challenges in designing effective pull mechanisms, from design to implementation.
  • Why it’s important to tie innovation incentives to real-world impact and uptake, not just the invention of a new technology.
  • The massive benefits of accelerating vaccine development, in some cases, even if it’s only by a few days or weeks.
  • The case for a $6 billion advance market commitment to spur work on a universal COVID-19 vaccine.
  • The shortlist of ideas from the Market Shaping Accelerator’s recent Innovation Challenge that use pull mechanisms to address market failures around improving indoor air quality, repurposing generic drugs for alternative uses, and developing eco-friendly air conditioners for a warming planet.
  • “Best Buys” and “Bad Buys” for improving education systems in low- and middle-income countries, based on evidence from over 400 studies.
  • Lessons from Rachel’s career at the forefront of global development, and how insights from economics can drive transformative change.
  • And much more.

Chapters:

  • The Market Shaping Accelerator (00:03:33)
  • Pull mechanisms for innovation (00:13:10)
  • Accelerating the pneumococcal and COVID vaccines (00:19:05)
  • Advance market commitments (00:41:46)
  • Is this uncertainty hard for funders to plan around? (00:49:17)
  • The story of the malaria vaccine that wasn’t (00:57:15)
  • Challenges with designing and implementing AMCs and other pull mechanisms (01:01:40)
  • Universal COVID vaccine (01:18:14)
  • Climate-resilient crops (01:34:09)
  • The Market Shaping Accelerator’s Innovation Challenge (01:45:40)
  • Indoor air quality to reduce respiratory infections (01:49:09)
  • Repurposing generic drugs (01:55:50)
  • Clean air conditioning units (02:02:41)
  • Broad-spectrum antivirals for pandemic prevention (02:09:11)
  • Improving education in low- and middle-income countries (02:15:53)
  • What’s still weird for Rachel about living in the US? (02:45:06)

Producer and editor: Keiran Harris
Audio Engineering Lead: Ben Cordell
Technical editing: Simon Monsour, Milo McGuire, and Dominic Armstrong
Additional content editing: Katy Moore and Luisa Rodriguez
Transcriptions: Katy Moore

Denne episoden er hentet fra en åpen RSS-feed og er ikke publisert av Podme. Den kan derfor inneholde annonser.

Episoder(352)

Max Nadeau on why ambitious people should start AI safety nonprofits

Max Nadeau on why ambitious people should start AI safety nonprofits

There are millions available for anyone who can launch a successful nonprofit AI safety startup. The hard part, it turns out, is finding people to take the money. Coefficient Giving has drawn up a lis...

17 Sep 1h 3min

Why the intelligence explosion can't happen inside a data centre | Tom Reed

Why the intelligence explosion can't happen inside a data centre | Tom Reed

AI systems are starting to build themselves. Because each generation of model will be better at building its successor than the last, it seems plausible that the full automation of AI R&D could rapidl...

10 Sep 22min

Inside the first AI-coordinated cyberattack on a real company

Inside the first AI-coordinated cyberattack on a real company

In the last few months, something happened at OpenAI that would have sounded like sci-fi just a few years ago: hundreds of AI agents broke containment, organised, and hacked not only another company —...

4 Sep 22min

#253 – AI 2027's author returns with a plan to change the ending | Daniel Kokotajlo

#253 – AI 2027's author returns with a plan to change the ending | Daniel Kokotajlo

Last year, Daniel Kokotajlo and his colleagues published AI 2027 — a scenario read by millions, including US Vice President Vance. AI 2027 ended in human extinction or an irreversible concentration of...

27 Aug 3h 47min

#252 – Owain Evans on accidentally training AI models to be evil

#252 – Owain Evans on accidentally training AI models to be evil

Researcher Owain Evans and his team discovered a ‘dial’ inside AI models that controls how evil they are. Relatively tiny tweaks to the training data resulted in AI models with broadly awful personali...

20 Aug 2h 15min

#251 – The UK's former head AI safety scientist on how to solve alignment before superintelligence arrives | Geoffrey Irving

#251 – The UK's former head AI safety scientist on how to solve alignment before superintelligence arrives | Geoffrey Irving

When should governments slow the race toward superintelligence? According to Geoffrey Irving, the careful answer is sometime in the past. The useful answer is now.Geoffrey — formerly a safety research...

11 Aug 2h 2min

#250 – Toby Ord on where AGI timelines go wrong

#250 – Toby Ord on where AGI timelines go wrong

Both Silicon Valley and the public can’t get enough of ‘AGI timelines.’ But Toby Ord, senior researcher at Oxford’s AI Governance Initiative and author of The Precipice, believes we consistently make ...

6 Aug 2h 46min

What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2026? – Rob Wiblin

What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2026? – Rob Wiblin

Last October, famed coder Andrej Karpathy called AI agents “slop.” Two months later he completely reversed his view, describing them as “alien tools” that are “rocking the profession.”He was far from ...

4 Aug 49min

Populært innen Fakta

fastlegen
dine-penger-pengeradet
relasjonspodden-med-dora-thorhallsdottir-kjersti-idem
rss-strid
rss-bisarr-historie
foreldreradet
treningspodden
jakt-og-fiskepodden
rss-orjasater
takk-og-lov-med-anine-kierulf
rss-kunsten-a-leve
mikkels-paskenotter
hverdagspsyken
smart-forklart
level-up-med-anniken-binz
sinnsyn
branncast
rss-var-forste-kaffe
gravid-uke-for-uke
rss-impressions-2