#206 This or That? Super Trainers vs. Training Companions, Buying 2023 or 2024 Shoes, Top Beginner Shoes, and Could Caitlin Clark BQ!?

#206 This or That? Super Trainers vs. Training Companions, Buying 2023 or 2024 Shoes, Top Beginner Shoes, and Could Caitlin Clark BQ!?

Time for another edition of "This or That" where we pit two opposing concepts (shoes, training, recovery, nonsense) against each other and force ourselves to pick a side. On this episode, Nathan, David, and Matt debate...well...pretty much everything: super trainers vs. training companion shoes, running in the heat vs. the cold, long racing vs. short racing, LeBron vs. Caitlin Clark, and even California geography. If you're looking for needlessly hot takes, we've got 'em.

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Chapters

  • 0:00 - Intro
  • 5:18 - 2023 shoes vs. 2024 shoes
  • 16:04 - Saucony Ride 16 vs 17
  • 19:10 - Marathon vs. Half marathon
  • 24:44 - Running in 0º or 100º
  • 28:50 - Santa Barbara is Southern California or Central Coast?
  • 34:22 - Foam rolling vs. percussive massage
  • 38:50 - Supertrainers vs. training companions
  • 44:19 - SC Trainer v3 vs. On Cloudmonster Hyper
  • 47:16 - Only racing 5Ks vs. marathons
  • 55:04 - Only road running vs. only trail running
  • 56:54 - Rockered vs. flexible shoes
  • 59:05 - Lebron vs. Caitlin Clark BQ-ing
  • 1:03:06 - Running at the Olympics: no golds but three medals or only one gold in three races
  • 1:05:51 - Top 2 starting shoes: Pegasus, Ghost, Cumulus, 880, Wave Rider, Ride 17
  • 1:12:30 - Wrap-up

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#302 Buy or Sell: Changing Legacy Shoes? Brands Making Variants of a Favorite Shoe? Specialty Racing Shoe Uppers?

#302 Buy or Sell: Changing Legacy Shoes? Brands Making Variants of a Favorite Shoe? Specialty Racing Shoe Uppers?

Matt and David take on another round of Buy or Sell! They debate whether brands should be creating multiple variants of the same shoe, adding specialty uppers to existing models, spinning off new line...

15 Jul 1h 7min

#301 Fact or Fiction? You Can Adjust to Any Shoe? Cooldowns are Important? 40+ Mile Weeks are Needed for Marathons?

#301 Fact or Fiction? You Can Adjust to Any Shoe? Cooldowns are Important? 40+ Mile Weeks are Needed for Marathons?

Nathan and David team up for a new round of Fact or Fiction, playing myth busters with your latest questions. They weigh in on questions about drop adjustment, cooldowns, gait analysis, training frequ...

8 Jul 54min

#300 The Best Shoes We Tested So Far in 2026 (Episode 300!)

#300 The Best Shoes We Tested So Far in 2026 (Episode 300!)

Episode 300 is here! And Matt, David, and Andrea mark the milestone by taking stock of the best running shoes of 2026 so far. They work through their top picks across every major category — daily trai...

1 Jul 1h 16min

#299 Mailbag! Top Stable Neutral Shoes of 2026? Shoes for Bunions?

#299 Mailbag! Top Stable Neutral Shoes of 2026? Shoes for Bunions?

David, Matt, and Nathan dig into the mailbag, fielding questions on stable neutral shoe picks, footwear options for runners dealing with bunions, trail stability shoes, and what the evidence says abou...

24 Jun 1h 2min

#298 Ranking Our Top 5 Favorite Max Cushion Shoes of All-Time

#298 Ranking Our Top 5 Favorite Max Cushion Shoes of All-Time

David and BJ count down their top five max cushion shoes of all time, breaking down what earns a shoe a spot on the list and what sets the top pick apart from the rest of the field, including some dee...

17 Jun 50min

#297 This or That? Choosing Between High End vs. Mid Tier Shoes

#297 This or That? Choosing Between High End vs. Mid Tier Shoes

Nathan, Matt, and David play a round of This or That, pitting mainline trainers against their premium counterparts to decide which they'd actually pick. They work through head-to-head matchups across ...

10 Jun 1h

#296 Mailbag! Best Light Trainers? High Drop Alternatives? + Introducing Our New Rabbit x DOR Merch!!

#296 Mailbag! Best Light Trainers? High Drop Alternatives? + Introducing Our New Rabbit x DOR Merch!!

Nathan, Matt, and David open with an update on David's post-Boston rehab before diving into the mailbag. They field a range of footwear and injury questions, covering shoe options for Achilles tendino...

3 Jun 1h 3min

#295 Rethinking How We Categorize Shoes

#295 Rethinking How We Categorize Shoes

Matt and Andrea work through a range of shoes they've been testing, sharing thoughts on the direction Saucony and Brooks are heading, Andrea's track spike adventures, and a mix of recent pickups inclu...

27 Mai 1h 2min

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