
23. Vidya Nayak from SoFi: Leading design systems across teams
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Vidya and Chris discuss pathways to becoming a design systems leader, having a content strategy within your design system, personalization considerations, meas...
25 Nov 202031min

22. Demian Borba from Adobe: Understanding and harnessing the power of design tokens
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Demian and Chris discuss what design tokens are and why they are a critical part of any design system, getting developers more involved in the design system di...
3 Nov 202038min

21. Jina Anne from Clarity: A design system origin story
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Jina and Chris discuss the inception of design tokens and Theo during Jina’s time at Salesforce, the correlation between design systems and community building,...
21 Okt 202042min

20. Rick Rodriguez from Walmart Labs: Creating design systems that scale
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Rick and Chris discuss deputizing evangelists to drive adoption and reduce fragmentation, contribution models and thinking about the areas to own vs. areas to ...
29 Sep 202041min

19. Morgane Peng from Societe Generale: The right level of complexity for the right people
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Morgane and Chris discuss threading design into the fabric of how business works, capturing a wide range of complexity needs within your design system, moving ...
1 Sep 202038min

18. Jason Lengstorf from Netlify: Failure, finding your way, and helping others adopt a new way of working
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Jason Lengstorf and Chris discuss failure, self-doubt, and ultimately finding your way before switching gears and getting into designs systems, communicating t...
19 Aug 202043min

17. Varun Vachar from Rangle: The design graph and computational design
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Varun Vachar and Chris discuss the “design graph,” creating choice in governance models, building a foundation of tools when setting up new systems, and using ...
6 Aug 202028min

16. Adam Argyle from Google: Making your design system freeing vs. constraining
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Adam Argyle and Chris venture into “spicy opinion” territory and discuss when design systems are freeing vs. constraining, creating appropriate “offramps” for ...
8 Jul 202057min






















