Ep. 431 OBL or ASC for Your Private Practice? How to Decide with Teri Yates

Ep. 431 OBL or ASC for Your Private Practice? How to Decide with Teri Yates

In this episode of the BackTable Podcast, Teri Yates explores the nuances of choosing between an Office-Based Lab (OBL) and Ambulatory Surgery Center (ASC) for private practices. Teri is the CEO of Accountable Physician Advisors, a consulting firm which specializes in OBLs, ASCs, and hybrid models for private-practice physicians. She is also President of DocCentric, a company focused on supporting physicians building and leading their own ASCs. The discussion includes a comprehensive analysis of the financial, regulatory, and operational considerations for physicians contemplating this decision. This includes insights into reimbursement models, Medicare regulations, and the strategic advantages of each model. The episode also touches on the importance of feasibility studies, partnerships with other specialties, and real estate strategies when developing these facilities. The conversation provides valuable advice for navigating the complexities of ASC development and emphasizes the value of maintaining independence and leveraging physician-owned models for long-term success. --- CHECK OUT OUR SPONSOR Reflow Medical https://www.reflowmedical.com/ --- SHOW NOTES 00:00 - Introduction 04:19 - Deep Dive into OBL and ASC: Definitions, Differences, and Decisions 07:26 - Financial Implications of ASC vs. OBL 10:56 - Hybrid Model: Combining OBL and ASC for Flexibility 15:14 - Navigating the Complexities of ASC Development 20:03 - Real Estate Strategies for OBL and ASC Projects 22:50 - Staffing Considerations and Physician Entrepreneur Insights 35:17 - Future of OBL and ASC: Trends and Predictions 39:43 - Closing Thoughts and Resources for Further Learning --- RESOURCES Ambulatory Surgery Center Association: https://www.ascassociation.org/home OEIS Annual Meeting 2024 Las Vegas: https://oeisweb.com/meetings/2024-annual-meeting/ Accountable Physician Advisors (Teri’s consulting firm): http://www.accountablephysicianadvisors.com/services DocCentric: https://doccentricasc.com/ NOON Development Company: https://noondevelopment.com/ BT VI Episode #366 - Navigating OBL & ASC Business: Pitfalls to Avoid with Teri Yates: https://www.backtable.com/shows/vi/podcasts/366/navigating-obl-asc-business-pitfalls-to-avoid BT VI Episode #202 - Staffing the OBL with Dr. Krishna Mannava and Kristin Longwell: https://www.backtable.com/shows/vi/podcasts/202/staffing-the-obl BT VI Episode #129 - OBL / ASC Business Pearls with Dr. Jim Melton: https://www.backtable.com/shows/vi/podcasts/129/obl-asc-business-pearls BI VI Episode #121 - Office-Based Labs (OBLs) & What You Can Do in Them with Dr. Mike Watts: https://www.backtable.com/shows/vi/podcasts/121/office-based-labs-obls-what-you-can-do-in-them BT VI Episode #42 - Building an Outpatient UFE Practice with Dr. Mary Costantino: https://www.backtable.com/shows/vi/podcasts/36/building-an-outpatient-ufe-practice

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Ep. 75 The Role of IR in Stroke Interventions (Part 2) with Dr. David Sacks and Dr. Martin Radvany

Ep. 75 The Role of IR in Stroke Interventions (Part 2) with Dr. David Sacks and Dr. Martin Radvany

Reflect on how this Podcast applies to your day-to-day and earn AMA PRA Category 1 CMEs here: https://earnc.me/07FYzi Part II of the discussion with Dr. Martin Radvany and Dr. David Sacks on the role of Interventional Radiologists in stroke interventions, including addressing training requirements and rural access to care.

4 Aug 202046min

Ep. 74 The Role of IR in Stroke Interventions (Part 1) with Dr. David Sacks and Dr. Martin Radvany

Ep. 74 The Role of IR in Stroke Interventions (Part 1) with Dr. David Sacks and Dr. Martin Radvany

Reflect on how this Podcast applies to your day-to-day and earn AMA PRA Category 1 CMEs here: https://earnc.me/yS6TGL Dr. Martin Radvany and Dr. David Sacks discuss the role of Interventional Radiologists in the treatment of acute ischemic stroke, including training requirements, the multidisciplinary team approach, and ways to improve patient access to high quality care.

2 Aug 202057min

Ep. 73 Iliocaval Stenting with Dr. Gerry O'Sullivan

Ep. 73 Iliocaval Stenting with Dr. Gerry O'Sullivan

Reflect on how this Podcast applies to your day-to-day and earn AMA PRA Category 1 CMEs here: https://earnc.me/TFABaN Interventional Radiologist Dr. Gerry O'Sullivan shares his experiences with Iliocaval stenting in post-thrombotic patients, including pearls and pitfalls and the "Aiming for the bottom corner" technique.

27 Jul 202048min

Ep. 72 Uterine Fibroid Embolizations in the OBL with Dr. John Lipman

Ep. 72 Uterine Fibroid Embolizations in the OBL with Dr. John Lipman

John Lipman, MD discusses UFE practice building, patient workup, and embolization technique in his dedicated Women's interventional practice, Atlanta Interventional Institute. --- CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS RADPAD® Radiation Protection https://www.radpad.com/ Accountable Physician Advisors http://www.accountablephysicianadvisors.com/ Accountable Revenue Cycle Solutions https://www.accountablerevcycle.com/ --- EARN CME Reflect on how this Podcast applies to your day-to-day and earn AMA PRA Category 1 CMEs: https://earnc.me/10vK6b

20 Jul 202052min

Ep. 71 Building a MedEd platform with Dr. Sarel Gaur

Ep. 71 Building a MedEd platform with Dr. Sarel Gaur

We talk with Interventional Radiologist Sarel Gaur about what inspired his #medEd #YouTube channel, where his topics come from, and tips for success for others.

13 Jul 202028min

Ep. 70 CO2 Angiography with Dr. James Caridi

Ep. 70 CO2 Angiography with Dr. James Caridi

Reflect on how this Podcast applies to your day-to-day and earn AMA PRA Category 1 CMEs here: https://earnc.me/F6p0sz In this episode, Dr. James Caridi joins Dr. Christopher Beck to discuss the benefits of using CO2 for an angiography as well as some important tips for proper use. Dr. Caridi mentions some of the reasons for choosing CO2 rather than contrast, including its solubility, low viscosity, and buoyancy. He also speaks about CO2 angiography approaches for imaging difficult to access vasculature. Dr. Caridi also speaks to specific uses of CO2 angiography for use for mesenteric angiography and how CO2 angiography can improve the sensitivity for detection and localization of GI bleeds. Dr. Caridi and Dr. Beck also discuss some non-vascular uses for CO2 angiography as well as a technique for imaging with CO2 without having to give up wire access. We talk through safely preparing a delivery system and gently injecting CO2 to prevent/reduce reflux in the patient if needed. Finally, we go into some notes concerning dialysis, contrast induced nephropathy, and some instances when CO2 angiography should not be used. Resources mentioned: CO2 Angiography Society http://www.co2angio.org/index.php This website features over 100 pieces of literature related to CO2 angiography, information about the newest developments, and access to membership in the society. Dr. Jim Caridi explains CO2mmander and AngiAssist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjsnHWmRZQI This video explains the portable delivery system and the gas management system.

6 Jul 202051min

Ep. 69 Retrograde Pedal Access with Dr. Jim Melton and Dr. Blake Parsons

Ep. 69 Retrograde Pedal Access with Dr. Jim Melton and Dr. Blake Parsons

Reflect on how this Podcast applies to your day-to-day and earn AMA PRA Category 1 CMEs here: https://earnc.me/wS9UCY Dr. Jim Melton and Dr. Blake Parsons discuss the benefits of retrograde pedal access in the treatment of PAD, as well as the team approach of their outpatient CardioVascular Health Clinic , which includes Vascular Surgery, Interventional Radiology, and Interventional Cardiology working together as partners for better patient care.

22 Jun 202052min

Ep. 68 RF Ablation Therapy for Bone Metastases with Dr. Jason Levy and Dr. Sandeep Bagla

Ep. 68 RF Ablation Therapy for Bone Metastases with Dr. Jason Levy and Dr. Sandeep Bagla

Dr. Jason Levy and Dr. Sandeep Bagla discuss palliative treatment of bone metastases with radiofrequency ablation, as well as recent results from the OPuS One trial.

15 Jun 202040min

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