Michael Levin and Joscha Bach: The Shape of Collective Thought

Michael Levin and Joscha Bach: The Shape of Collective Thought

Michael Levin and Joscha Bach explore the idea of a global mind, collective intelligence, agency, and how morphogenesis might shape cognition. They debate the boundaries between biology and computation, and consider what competence means for cells and societies.- 00:00:00 - Introduction- 00:01:55 - Bach and Levin discuss each other's work- 00:03:34 - Cells as neuron-like units- 00:07:15 - Software as control pattern- 00:10:55 - Academic disciplinary boundaries- 00:14:38 - Perceptron as brain toy model- 00:18:44 - Researcher identity- 00:20:10 - Podcast vs academia benefits- 00:30:04 - Drastic belief changes- 00:38:54 - Memory beyond brain- 00:45:06 - Engrams and storage- 00:47:30 - Transferring memory across species- 00:55:25 - Weissman's barrier- 00:59:25 - Notion of competence- 01:12:10 - Virtualization for unreliable hardware- 01:16:02 - Defining competence- 01:22:35 - Goals and teleology issues- 01:27:34 - Planarian goals and encoded instructions- 01:34:55 - Navigation in morphic space- 01:36:11 - One species' defect as benefit- 01:37:42 - Intelligence trap and bias- 01:39:05 - Applying each other's work- 01:52:25 - General intelligence necessities in cellsSPONSORS:- Drink Trade: 30% off at https://www.drinktrade.com/everything- Uncommon Goods: 15% off your first gift at https://www.uncommongoods.com/podcast/everything- Roman: 20% off first order at https://ro.co/curt- Masterworks: promo code theoriesofeverything at https://www.masterworks.art/toeRESOURCES:- YouTube link: https://youtu.be/kgMFnfB5E_A- http://theoriesofeverything.org- *New* TOE Website (early access to episodes): https://theoriesofeverything.org/- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything- Michael Levin (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/Z0TNfysTazc- Michael Levin Theolocution With Chris Fields & Karl Friston: https://youtu.be/J6eJ44Jq_pw- Joscha Bach Theolocution With John Vervaeke: https://youtu.be/rK7ux_JhHM4- Joscha Bach Theolocution With Donald Hoffman: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww- Joscha Bach (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmI Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. SPONSOR: I subscribe to The Economist for their science and tech coverage. As a TOE listener, get 35% off! No other podcast has this: https://economist.com/TOE FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Curt Jaimungal: What Is Energy, Actually?

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Eric Weinstein: The Theory He Kept Secret for Four Decades (Geometric Unity)

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Eric Weinstein reveals the core of his Geometric Unity theory after 40 years of development. He also explores philosophical implications, quantum‑classical relationships, and the challenges of communi...

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David Wallace: Why Many Worlds Is the Only Consistent Interpretation

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Philosopher of physics David Wallace unpacks the Everett (Many‑Worlds) interpretation, tackling common misconceptions, probability, emergence and personal identity across multiple worlds. He also exam...

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Yang-Hui He explores how AI is reshaping pure mathematics, from the murmuration conjecture to Riemann Hypothesis. We examine the changing research landscape, the role of intuition, and what a future w...

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Curt Jaimungal: Explain Like I'm Five? Challenge Accepted.

Curt Jaimungal: Explain Like I'm Five? Challenge Accepted.

We examine the common claim that you must be able to explain a concept to a five‑year‑old to truly understand it, arguing that the idea can be misleading and even harmful. The episode explores why som...

15 Mai 202520min

David Kaiser: MIT Physicist on Black Holes Older Than the Universe

David Kaiser: MIT Physicist on Black Holes Older Than the Universe

MIT physicist and historian David Kaiser examines primordial black holes, exploring how they might explain dark matter and connect to cosmic inflation. He discusses their potential impact on our under...

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Curt Jaimungal: Demystifying Godel's Theorem

Curt Jaimungal: Demystifying Godel's Theorem

Gödel’s incompleteness theorem is often misrepresented in popular science. In this episode we cut through the hype, correcting misconceptions from figures like Neil deGrasse Tyson, Veritasium, Michio ...

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Ted Jacobson: The Proof That Gravity Equals Entropy

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