A Conversation with Scott Turow, Author of Presumed Guilty
Murder Sheet14 Jan 2025

A Conversation with Scott Turow, Author of Presumed Guilty

Here at the Murder Sheet, we are huge fans of the author Scott Turow. His first novel. Presumed Innocent, came out back in 1987 and introduced readers to the lawyers of Kindle County. In the years since, Turow published many more novels- rich and gripping legal thrillers, each one well worth reading.

Even if you haven't read any of his books, you still may have met some of his characters. Presumed Innocent was made into a successful movie starring Harrison Ford and- just last year- was also adapted into a television series on Apple Plus. That story focused on Rusty Sabich- who was facing a murder trial for the death of his lover.

Turow returns to Rusty's story in his latest novel, Presumed Guilty- and you don't need to have read any earlier novel in order to appreciate it. Now a much older Rusty has settled down in a rural part of his state. He seems to have found true love. But there's a pretty big complication- the African American son of Rusty's partner is charged with murdering his girlfriend-- and he wants Rusty to defend him in court.

Scott was kind enough to take the time to talk with us about the new novel. the stresses of trial work and how a prosecutor knows when he's ready to move into criminal defense.

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We love you, Lani. We wouldn't be here without you. And we miss you.Lani was a rescue. If you want, volunteer or send some money or resources to your local rescue. Thank you!Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

6 Jan 30min

The Cheat Sheet: Victims and Voir Dire

The Cheat Sheet: Victims and Voir Dire

The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from New Hampshire, New Jersey, Colorado, and Mississippi.NBC Boston’s coverage of the murder of Judy Lord: https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/nh-cold-case-unit-to-announce-significant-development-in-decades-old-case/3850076/CBS News’s report on developments about Nazeer Hameed's involvement in the murders of Sasikala Narra and her son Anish Narra: https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/sasikala-and-anish-narra-maple-shade-nj-cold-case/We also accessed news articles from the Concord Monitor, the Trenton Times, and the South Jersey Times via Newspapers.com.The ruling from the Colorado Court of Appeals on public access issues in the Edward R. Sandoval case about the murder of Dennis Lozoya: https://gazetteedit.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/22CA0824-Peo-v-Sandoval-10-30-25.pdfThe appeal filed in the case of William Ervin Edwards in the murder case of Robert Davis: https://courts.ms.gov/appellatecourts/docket/sendPDF.php?f=web0001.COA.2025-KA-138.118328.0.pdf&c=99062&a=N&s=2Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

2 Jan 52min

More Questions and Answers to Close Out 2025

More Questions and Answers to Close Out 2025

We got a lot of questions, so this is part two.Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

30 Des 20251h 33min

Questions and Answers to Close Out 2025

Questions and Answers to Close Out 2025

We will sit down and answer some of your pressing questions!Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

29 Des 20251h 24min

The Truth About Sex Trafficking

The Truth About Sex Trafficking

We checked in with Leyna. She is an advocate who is pushing to stop the scourge of human, labor, and sexual trafficking. She told us about her own experiences surviving trafficking, and cleared up some myths about the subject. Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

28 Des 202557min

The Cheat Sheet: Incompetence and Intelligence

The Cheat Sheet: Incompetence and Intelligence

The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Indiana, Kentucky, Connecticut, and California.Abacus News’s report on a lawsuit against ChatGPT creator OpenAI after the murder-suicide of Suzanne Eberson Adams and Stein-Erik Soelberg: https://abacusnews.com/when-a-chatbot-became-a-confidant-the-ai-lawsuit-after-a-murder-suicide/The Wall Street Journal’s report on a lawsuit against ChatGPT creator OpenAI after the murder-suicide of Suzanne Eberson Adams and Stein-Erik Soelberg: https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/tech-news-briefing/chatgpt-and-a-murder-suicide-in-connecticut/959368a9-3421-43f8-8e72-019762a90b9c?mod=WSJvidctr_upnext_pos0&gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqf70JjMqyNALv4YwKMKYcrtadR9WVwJgnCT-FLovBeL1jhCdzQS1xEFIPq31o0%3D&gaa_ts=6942de8c&gaa_sig=qfJFIe8q57QOSz38xHcSLDz8REHwZPecfQ3o7NvbHV3GNEZqA2r1Hz0E-YeoRA0zmGlRj7w_ruseicctv8_FNA%3D%3DThe New York Post’s report on a lawsuit against ChatGPT creator OpenAI after the murder-suicide of Suzanne Eberson Adams and Stein-Erik Soelberg: https://nypost.com/2025/12/11/us-news/chatgpt-chatbots-shocking-response-to-alleged-role-in-murder-suicide/The Guardian’s report on the crimes of true-crime-producer-turned-fugitive Mary Carole McDonnell: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/14/fbi-most-wanted-list-true-crime-tv-producerWKYT’s report on Jacob Lee Bard’s arrest in the death of De’Jon Fox Jr.: https://www.wkyt.com/2025/12/16/case-against-man-accused-ksu-shooting-sent-grand-jury-new-details-emerge/Lex-18’s report on Jacob Lee Bard’s arrest in the death of De’Jon Fox Jr.: https://www.lex18.com/news/covering-kentucky/man-charged-in-connection-to-deadly-ksu-shooting-set-to-appear-in-courtFox 59’s coverage of the delay in the case against Carl Boards for the murder of Officer Noah Shahnavaz: https://fox59.com/news/family-of-slain-elwood-police-officer-says-delay-in-suspects-trial-reopens-the-wound/Dispatch audio of Officer Noah Shahnavaz’s final call: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8dc5_5ISDsFind discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

26 Des 20251h 9min

The Murder of Scott Macklem: The Guilt of Temujin Kensu: The Evidence

The Murder of Scott Macklem: The Guilt of Temujin Kensu: The Evidence

Let's sit down and sift through the evidence in the murder of Scott Macklem. We will also read some communications we recently received from Temujin Kensu. Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

25 Des 20252h 55min

Policing Across the Pond: The Differences Between Law Enforcement in the United States and the United Kingdom

Policing Across the Pond: The Differences Between Law Enforcement in the United States and the United Kingdom

We spoke to a former police officer who lives in Britain in the United Kingdom about the differences between policing in the United States and the United Kingdom.Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

23 Des 202558min

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