The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria25 Feb 2025

Autistic-Led ABA Services: Session 290 with Armando Bernal and Andy Bondy

Welcome to Session 290 of The Behavioral Observations Podcast. In this episode, I'm joined by Armando Bernal and Andy Bondy. Andy is a known entity both in the field, and to the audience as well, and therefore needs little in the way of introduction.

Armando is the founder of Autism International Consulting, which is the only Autistic-owned ABA provider in the Houston, TX area. He shares a truly inspiring story of how he went from not speaking at all, up through the present day, where he and his team provide ABA services.

In this show, we discuss:

Armando's family's response to his diagnosis.
How his mother single-handedly directed his early treatment.
His work as a special education teacher.
A surprising story - to me at least - of how he first learned about ABA.
His work at Autism International Consulting.
How he and Andy began collaborating.
How Armando's unique perspective informs his practice.
Current topics in ABA, including assent and compassionate care.
How Armando learned to accept his diagnosis.
Navigating controversies in the field and the related role of social media.

Links to resources discussed:

Armando's company, Autism International Consulting.
Reach out to Armando on LinkedIn.
Autism International Consulting's IG account.
Lestremau Allen, Mellon, Syed, Johnson & Bernal (2024). Neurodiversity-Affirming Applied Behavior Analysis.
Armando's appearance on Dr. Mary Barbera's podcast.

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