
184: Lies That Take Lives (w/Scott Kennedy)
Measles was declared eliminated in the US in 2000. Fast forward to 2019 and the nation experienced the largest number of cases since 1992. Globally, there were 207,000 measles deaths that year, a 50% increase since 2016. The anti-vax boom time was still to come. Andrew Wakefield, Del Bigtree, and RFK Jr. massively increased their exposure and salaries during Covid via pseudoscientific fear-mongering and promiscuous political alliances. Scott Kennedy’s new documentary, Shot in the Arm, details the deadly impact of these anti-vax kingpins, as well as the tireless counter-efforts of scientists, medical workers, and science educators like Peter Hotez, Paul Offit, Karen Enrst, and Blimi Marcus. Scott joins Derek and Julian to discuss the past and future of the anti-vax movement. Show Notes Shot in the Arm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
14 Des 202358min

Bonus Sample: Post Lapsed Catholic?
Matthew follows up on his interview with Mike Lewis about Bishop Strickland with thoughts about: 1) Building a bridge with progressive elements of a religion that claims 1.36 billion people globally, as it goes through another surge of paranoia and reactionary radicalization, and 2) Building a bridge into a personal past Show Notes Vatican II: It's about that 'fresh air' | National Catholic Reporter The Smoke of Satan on the Silver Screen: The Catholic Horror Film, Vatican II, and the Revival of Demonology | Journal for the Academic Study of Religion More sexual assault survivors connected to Michigan-based religious groups surface Inside the People of Praise, the Tight-Knit Faith Community of Amy Coney Barrett - The New York Times And Scales Fell From His Eyes | PDF | Protestantism | Catholic Church Pope Michael – WRSP ‘The most conspiratorial demographic’: white evangelicals and the QAnon connection - The Conversationalist Evangelicals are looking for answers online. They’re finding QAnon instead. | MIT Technology Review QAnon Conspiracies Sway Faith Groups, Including 1 in 4 White Evangelicals | News & Reporting | Christianity Today New poll: QAnon embraced by 11 percent of white Catholics and 15 percent of all Americans | America Magazine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
11 Des 20235min

Deep Cut: The Final Battle
Why did Trump kick-off his 2024 presidential campaign in Waco, Texas? Who were the Branch Davidians, anyway? Julian unpacks the incendiary streams of far-right anti-government militia history and religious apocalypticism that our former president is tapping into as he faces legal jeopardy. It all goes back almost 300 years to the original Great Awakening that QAnon and New Age channelers tried to remix in 2020. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
9 Des 202338min

183: Woke Pope Cancels America's Bishop (w/Mike Lewis)
Conspiracy Theory Catholicism is back, bringing together Satanic Panickers, anti-vaxxers, tradwives who think (or at least say) birth control is an abomination, and survivalist prayer bros who string bullets into rosaries. This motley bunch agree on one thing: Pope Francis is just too damn woke. The movement has many leaders, but only one man has been dubbed “America’s Bishop”: Joseph Edward Strickland, the now-former Bishop of Tyler, East Texas. “Former,” because on November 11, the Pope of Woke canceled him from his post. Our guest today, Mike Lewis of the Catholic news and opinion website, wherepeteris.com, walks us through this strange tale, detailing how Strickland courted his own demise by going batshit on Twitter during the pandemic, suggesting Francis is a heretic, calling Joe Biden evil, and railing against abortion-derived vaccines. Butcherbox Promo: Sign up today at butcherbox.com/conspirituality and use code conspirituality to get free chicken wings for a year. Show Notes Mel Gibson: The man without a pope - Where Peter Is Americans, including Catholics, continue to have favorable views of Pope Francis Many Americans — including most Republicans — believe the pope should stay out of U.S. affairs | YouGov Searching for Answers: Why Was Bishop Joseph Strickland Removed? QAnon Conspiracies Sway Faith Groups, Including 1 in 4 White Evangelicals | News & Reporting | Christianity Today New poll: QAnon embraced by 11 percent of white Catholics and 15 percent of all Americans | America Magazine Just one-third of U.S. Catholics agree with their church that Eucharist is body, blood of Christ Many Americans believe in the supernatural, UFOs | Ipsos Pope Francis’ unexpected friendship with a group of trans women | America Magazine The making of Bishop Strickland - Where Peter Is Strickland's Adventurous Online Legacy - Mike Lewis Extra Bishop Strickland's "Letter from a Friend" Podcast: Fr. James Martin on Pope Francis and accompaniment - Where Peter Is ‘Medical Freedom’ Activists Take Aim at New Target: Childhood Vaccine Mandates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
7 Des 20231h 26min

Bonus Sample: Goliath & Narcissus: A Brett Weinstein Breakdown
What if every important world event, regardless of how tragic or distant, is really part of a secret plan that only a handful of contrarian podcast pals can decipher? Julian breaks down bizarre clips from recent Dark Horse livestreams, and wonders about the connection between conspiracy theorizing and an increasingly self-important disconnection from reality. Stick around for an expert cameo from psychology professor, Matt Browne, of Decoding the Gurus. Butcherbox Promo: Sign up today at butcherbox.com/conspirituality and use code conspirituality to get free chicken wings for a year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
4 Des 20238min

Brief: The Twin Flames Story (w/Alice Hines)
Soulmates gone wrong. High-pressure sexual orientation and gender conversion in an MLM coaching cult. Journalist and producer Alice Hines discusses the “master Christ” young couple at the center of Twin Flames Universe and the alarming story that unfolds in the documentary based on her Vanity Fair expose. Show Notes Inside the All-Consuming World of Twin Flames Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
2 Des 202327min

182: Recovering from Conspiracy Theories (w/Stephanie Kemmerer)
What is it like to get red-pilled, find a fragile community of peers, and then come out on the other side? What are the personal, social, and political wounds that make conspiracy theories feel like medicine—or a drug? What is the difference between debunking theories and healing wounds? Today the trio discusses excerpts of an interview Matthew recorded with Stephanie Kemmerer, a former conspiracy theorist and now public educator. Stephanie is part of a newly formed non-profit called The American Information Integrity Alliance and co-facilitator of the support group DOUBT: Discussing Our Unusual Beliefs Together. Kemmerer’s journey tells us a lot about how people fall into the rabbit hole, how they can claw their way back out. But she also suggests that the rabbit hole is really a hole in the culture, and that there’s plenty we can do to fill it in. Butcherbox Promo: Sign up today at butcherbox.com/conspirituality and use code conspirituality to choose your free steak for a year and get $20 off. Show Notes American Information Integrity Alliance D.O.U.B.T. (Discussing Our Unusual Beliefs Together) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
30 Nov 20231h 13min

Bonus Sample: Anti-vax Lifestyle Brands Are Here
In 2021, the anti-vax dating site, Unjected, appeared on the scene. Between Unjected's conservative marketing campaigns, which leans conspiratorial and bigoted, and its partnership with supplements company, The Wellness Company, Derek breaks down why this appears to be the emergence of anti-vax lifestyle brands—a trend he believes is only going to grow in the coming years. Butcherbox Promo: Sign up today at butcherbox.com/conspirituality and use code conspirituality to choose your free steak for a year and get $20 off. Show Notes Anti-vax dating site exposed data for 3,500 users through ‘debug mode’ bug Maui emergency services head, who met criticism for not using sirens during wildfire, resigns In deadly Maui fires, many had no warning and no way out. Those who dodged a barricade survived Exclusive Interview: The founder of Unjected, a dating site for the unvaxxed, talks about why it's still growing after getting kicked off the App Store MAGA Influencers Are Sold on This Grifty Wellness Company Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
27 Nov 20237min





















