Mining, Bags, Bets, ZK & The Proving Race, Arkham, AI, Onchain Intel , IP World and The Future of Meme Coins with Notsofast, Maya Dotan, Miguel Morel and Red
The Rollup12 Aug 2025

Mining, Bags, Bets, ZK & The Proving Race, Arkham, AI, Onchain Intel , IP World and The Future of Meme Coins with Notsofast, Maya Dotan, Miguel Morel and Red

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đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

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Programmable IP In The Age of AI with Jason Zhao

Programmable IP In The Age of AI with Jason Zhao

For today's episode, we were joined by Jason Zhao of Story Protocol to discuss the intersection of IP and AI. The convergence of blockchain, AI, and creative content isn't just reshaping how we think about intellectual property—it's creating the next major frontier in crypto. While others chase the latest DeFi trends, Story has emerged as one of the most strategically positioned projects of this cycle, led by a16z for the third consecutive fundraising round —a distinction shared only with Coinbase in the firm's crypto portfolio. What makes Story particularly compelling is its unique position as the only serious AI chain bet of this cycle. In a landscape where everyone is trying to capture value from the AI revolution, Story stands out by solving a fundamental problem: how to make intellectual property tradable and yield-bearing in a global market. This isn't just another L1—it's the essential infrastructure that could unlock the floodgates for meaningful AI adoption in blockchain. Think about the scale here: Story isn't just building another smart contract platform—it's creating an entirely new market for IP as a yield-bearing asset, with potential value flows that could dwarf traditional L1 metrics. What makes this particularly powerful is how Story transforms IP from a static asset into programmable, yield-generating collateral. While the world grapples with questions about AI training data and content rights, Story Protocol is quietly building the infrastructure that could make legitimate AI training and content monetization not just possible, but seamless and profitable. In this deep dive, we'll explore how Story could fundamentally reshape the intersection of AI and blockchain, creating new possibilities for creators, developers, and investors alike. What we're witnessing isn't just another protocol launch—it's potentially the birth of a new primitive in the digital economy. Join The Rollup Edge: https://members.therollup.co Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

10 Jan 20251h 2min

2025 Crypto & AI Predictions with Haseeb Qureshi

2025 Crypto & AI Predictions with Haseeb Qureshi

For today's special episode, we were joined by Haseeb of Dragonfly to discuss his 2025 predictions in-depth. The intersection of artificial intelligence and DeFi is no longer a distant future—it's happening now. As AI tools become more sophisticated, they're fundamentally changing how developers approach smart contracts, how projects structure token launches, and how we think about the future of blockchain execution environments. While AI-powered development tools are making smart contract creation more accessible than ever—potentially cementing EVM's market dominance—emerging alternatives like Move and SVM are gaining traction. This raises compelling questions: Will AI-assisted development favor established platforms, or will it level the playing field for newer protocols? We also discussed how token distribution models are evolving in parallel with these technological shifts. We're witnessing a transition from simple points-based airdrops to sophisticated, KPI-driven incentives that leverage onchain data for more transparent and equitable distribution. This evolution reflects a broader trend toward data-driven tokenomics and more nuanced approaches to further onchain price discovery. But these advancements come with their own set of challenges. As AI tools become more integral to DeFi development, we're seeing signs of a growing technological divide between early adopters and those slower to adapt. There's also the question of AI fatigue—a phenomenon familiar from previous tech cycles. How will these dynamics influence the DeFi ecosystem's development? In this piece, we'll explore these intersecting trends and their implications for builders, users, and the broader DeFi landscape. From the changing nature of smart contract development to the future of token distribution, we'll examine how AI is reshaping the foundations of decentralized finance—and what it means for what comes next. Join The Rollup Edge: https://members.therollup.co Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

8 Jan 20251h 20min

How To Build A Web3 Gaming Empire With Jeff "Jihoz" Zirlin

How To Build A Web3 Gaming Empire With Jeff "Jihoz" Zirlin

For today's episode, we are live from Bangkok again discussing what it takes to build a massive userbase onchain from the ground up. Picture this: It's early days, and Axie Infinity is trying to scale on Ethereum. They experiment with Loom Network, but like many early solutions, it just can't handle their explosive growth. Rather than compromise, they take the bold step of building their own solution - Ronin. Today, that decision has paid off spectacularly. Beyond powering Axie, Ronin now supports rising stars like Pixels, boasting 1.5 million daily active users and generating millions in monthly revenue. What makes Ronin special isn't just its tech - it's the holistic ecosystem they've built. Every piece, from their wallet to their NFT marketplace to their DEX, was crafted with real user needs in mind. There's no unnecessary complexity, no features built just for hype. Everything serves a purpose, tested and refined in the crucible of actual usage. The impact has been transformative, particularly in regions often overlooked by traditional tech. In the Philippines, Vietnam, and Brazil, Ronin has become more than just a gaming platform - it's an economic engine. By breathing new life into dormant NFTs and creating genuine utility through gameplay, they've built something that delivers real value to everyday users. For developers, Ronin offers more than just infrastructure - it provides a blueprint for success. Their strategy of nurturing a core "golden cohort" of users and expanding organically has proven remarkably effective. For players, it means gaming experiences that feel natural and seamless, where the blockchain elements enhance rather than intrude. While Ronin has had its ups and downs, its clear that they are steadfast on bringing new users onchain, which were excited about. Join The Rollup Edge: https://members.therollup.co Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

3 Jan 202525min

The Massive 'Infra to Apps' Shift in Crypto Investing with Wei Dai

The Massive 'Infra to Apps' Shift in Crypto Investing with Wei Dai

For today's podcast, we were joined by Wei Dai, a researcher at 1kx and PhD cryptographer, to discuss investing in crypto's killer apps, the shift from infra to apps, and interop. Think of rollup clusters as the high-speed railways of blockchain - they're not merely accelerating transactions, they're fundamentally transforming how we approach value transfer across networks. Just as railways reshaped urban development, rollup clusters are establishing more efficient and interconnected DeFi ecosystems. We'll examine three key innovations that define rollup clusters: First, their approach to resolving the scalability trilemma. Second, the economic architecture that ensures system sustainability. And third, the expanding landscape of opportunities for builders and users. Whether you're developing protocols or exploring DeFi opportunities, these developments have significant implications. We're observing these systems actively reconstruct how liquidity flows and how value is generated throughout the DeFi ecosystem. Crypto is going through a shift from infra to apps, welcome to the app era. Join The Rollup Edge: https://members.therollup.co Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

30 Des 202438min

Rollup-Boost, Unichain, And TEEs With Hasu & Robert Miller

Rollup-Boost, Unichain, And TEEs With Hasu & Robert Miller

In today's episode, we explore how sometimes the best innovations come from rethinking the basics rather than fixing what already exists. That's exactly what Flashbots is achieving with their groundbreaking innovations in the rollup space - creating something entirely new instead of patching the old. At its core, this is about building a better trading system from the ground up. Flashbots stepped back from the usual approach of fixing individual problems and asked a fundamental question: "How can we design a blockchain specifically for trading?" Their answer is Unichain, which focuses on two essential components - optimizing transaction speed and ensuring precise trade ordering. One of the biggest challenges in blockchain trading has been MEV, where traders can lose value due to transaction ordering issues. Flashbots has developed an innovative solution using Trusted Execution Environments (TEEs) - secure computational environments that ensure fair and transparent trade processing. The benefits of this new approach are far-reaching. Regular traders experience faster and more reliable transactions. Developers gain access to enhanced tools for building sophisticated trading applications. And the entire system operates with significantly improved efficiency. This development signals an important shift in blockchain technology's evolution. Rather than attempting to create all-purpose blockchains, we're witnessing the emergence of specialized chains designed for specific use cases. In this instance, Unichain excels at one crucial function: enabling superior trading experiences. We'll explore these technological improvements in detail and examine how they're shaping the future of onchain scaling for Ethereum, in the dark forest. The Rollup Join The Rollup Edge: https://members.therollup.co Website: https://therollup.co Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl... đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

27 Des 20241h 22min

Mert Mumtaz on Pudgy Penguins, Solana's Vision, and The Blockchain Endgame

Mert Mumtaz on Pudgy Penguins, Solana's Vision, and The Blockchain Endgame

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23 Des 20241h 17min

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What Is The Big FHE Unlock? With Guy Zyskind

Privacy-enabled blockchain technology is transforming how we process sensitive data. In conversation with Guy Zyskind, we explore how Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) allows smart contracts to compute encrypted data while maintaining security. Real-world applications are already emerging on Arbitrum's infrastructure - from sealed-bid auctions preventing front-running to confidential token transfers and secure payroll systems that protect sensitive information. At the core of this development is Fhenix, whose co-processor model integrates privacy features into the Arbitrum ecosystem. This combination of scalability and privacy could fundamentally change how we build and interact with blockchain applications. Let's examine how these technologies are shaping the future of Web3 development. Join The Rollup Edge: https://members.therollup.co Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

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Superchain vs. Arbitrum Orbit Debate with Ryan Wyatt, A.J. Warner, and Jill Gunter

For today's episode, we decided to up the spice levels and have some fun. While technical specifications and token metrics often dominate L2 discussions, a more compelling story lies beneath the surface: the fundamental philosophical and strategic differences between Ethereum's leading scaling solutions, Arbitrum and Optimism. In a recent roundtable discussion, we explored these contrasting visions with an exceptional panel: AJ Warner from Offchain Labs Ryan Wyatt from the Optimism Foundation Jill from Espresso Systems Our conversation ventured beyond typical technical analyses, delving into how these ecosystems approach critical challenges differently. From licensing strategies to cross-chain interoperability, each project reveals distinct perspectives on blockchain's future. What emerged was a fascinating exploration of how philosophical differences shape every aspect of these platforms – from their governance structures to their approaches to ecosystem growth and innovation. Join us as we unpack these insights and examine how two leading L2 solutions are charting different paths toward Ethereum's scaled future. P.S. We've launched The Rollup Edge for our dedicated listeners: early episode access, podcast transcripts, ad-free listening on a custom RSS feed, and a members lounge all for $14/month. Join The Edge here: members.therollup.co Join The Rollup Edge: https://members.therollup.co Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

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