Pelicans Outlook with Will Guillory; Rockets Outlook with Kelly Iko; Thursday Daily Duncs

Pelicans Outlook with Will Guillory; Rockets Outlook with Kelly Iko; Thursday Daily Duncs

Kelly Iko, The Athletic’s Rockets beatman and host of the Ikosystem show, joins to discuss the rebuilding Rockets. We discuss the key dynamics around the team this season:What can we make of the fact there are more young guys than roles? What are the expectations for Stephen Silas as he enters the last guaranteed year of his contract? Can franchise pillars Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, Jr., and Alperen Sengun evolve this year? Plus, our predictions for the Rockets season.

Zion is back! Will Guillory of The Athletic takes a look at an intriguing Pels season. We discuss Zion’s form, the frontcourt fit with Jonas Valanciunas, the path to a good defense, what Willie Green’s rotation will look like, and of course make our predictions for the Pels’ season.

Plus, Thursday Daily Duncs.

Thursday Daily Duncs (10/13/22)

Patrick Beverley-Russell Westbrook

Something or nothing? In the Lakers' preseason loss to the Timberwolves yesterday, Patrick Beverley tried to bring his floormates together during a stoppage. Russell Westbrook didn't join.

As much as Beverley has talked up his fast friendship with Westbrook now that they're teammates in Los Angeles, there are many years of them being nemeses.

But I'm going with nothing.

Westbrook, who was called for a foul on the preceding play, might have been talking to a referee. Though resisting Beverley's continued attempts to wave him into the huddle, Westbrook high-fived Beverley while taking his spot outside the paint. By that time, Westbrook might have thought he was too late to huddle and it was time for the free throw.

Mostly, it's the high-five that does it for me. That's a key piece of evidence people overly thirsty for Lakers drama are overlooking

Draymond Green

The Warriors didn't suspend Draymond Green for punching Jordan Poole in the face.

Why not?

Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN:

I'm told that the Warriors, they put a significant amount of weight on the fact that opening night was ring night, that the players are going to get their rings. Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, Steph Curry – their fourth championship in Golden State. The banner is going to be raised. They did not treat this like it was one of 82. They didn't want to suspend Draymond Green and keep him from that. Now, if this incident had happened in the regular season or if this had just been a normal opening night and they weren't there as defending champions, there probably would've been a suspension for Draymond Green.

This strikes me as reasonable. Green was integral to the Warriors winning the championship. The ring-and-banner ceremony is a uniquely special moment in celebrating that massive accomplishment.

There are two, overlapping questions about how Golden State should have punished Green: How severe should the punishment have been? What punishment is appropriate? You can think Green deserved a harsher penalty than he got while believing suspending him for ring night wouldn't have been a fitting punishment.

My problem with the logic, though: Why didn't the Warriors just suspend Green for their previous two preseason games (which he missed anyway while away from the team) and maybe their last preseason game tomorrow (which he'll probably play in)? If Golden State wanted to send a message of a suspension while allowing Green to attend ring night, that would have been an easy middle ground.

Instead, the Warriors went out of their way to say Green's weeklong absence wasn't a suspension.

Jeanie Buss

Rich Eisen asked Lakers owner Jeannie Buss who's in her inner circle.

Buss:

“People are fascinated with that for some reason. I could ask you, do you ever ask Mark Cuban who his inner circle is? Or Joe Lacob who his inner circle is? There’s just something about being a woman I think people feel like, ‘Oh, what crutches does she need, or what does she lean on, because she’s not capable of doing it herself.’ I have great people that I work with. People seem most interested in Linda Rambis, who I’ve been working with for over 30 years. I’ve operated in the same style since I started working with the organization and, even before that, with the Great Western Forum putting on events. And I build – I’m a leader. I’m not a dictator. I like to build consensus. I like to hear from everybody at the table. And then ultimately people need to understand, I’m the governor of the team, and I’m held accountable for every decision that’s made both business and basketball. So if anything goes wrong, it’s on my watch, and I’m held accountable for it.”

People are fascinated with Buss' inner circle because they care about the Lakers. People caring so deeply about the Lakers has made Buss a lot of money, by the way. The franchise has made numerous questionable-at-best decisions, and people are so invested in the team, they want to understand who's behind those decisions.

There has been major interest in the Mavericks' power structure under Mark Cuban. Ditto the Warriors under Joe Lacob, though winning breeds contentment. The Lakers can't just tell fans to relax and trust the front office.

What does Buss mean when she says she's held accountable for the Lakers' decisions? She's not at risk of losing her position. She'll suffer the financial losses (or, more accurately, lesser financial gains). But she can just try again next time. As the Robert Sarver situation showed, owners are – in many ways – above accountability.

People in basketball operations usually aren't.

Unless they operate in the shadows of Jeanie Buss' inner circle. In that case, they're fairly well shielded.

Damian Lillard

Trail Blazers star Damian Lillard revealed more about his 2021 offseason meeting with LeBron James and Anthony Davis at LeBron's house in Los Angeles.

Lillard, via Logan Murdock of The Ringer:

“Like, man, what if that happened? What if I did go? I thought about it. At that point, I was thinking about a lot of things.”

Lillard added: “I was like, ‘If I’m going to ever look at a different situation than mine, I’m going to look at one where I know I’m going to have a great chance to win.’”

Lillard landed where he always does: loyal to Portland. I think it's cool Lillard has his own values and continues to stick with them. There are obviously temptations to join better teams.

However, I'm not sure the Lakers had enough ammo to trade for Lillard. Maybe if he demanded a trade specifically to Los Angeles. Maybe. But it's tough to imagine how the Trail Blazers would've reacted to something so out of character.

Lillard's meeting with LeBron and Davis at LeBron's house sounds similar to Russell Westbrook's meeting with LeBron and Davis at LeBron's house. The Lakers, of course, traded for Westbrook that summer.

Tyler Herro

The Heat signed Tyler Herro to a four-year, $120 million contract extension. (The deal could theoretically be worth $130 million with incentives. Emphasis on theoretically.)

Want an idea how these negotiations unfold (beyond just listening to our annual Mock Rookie Extensions podcast, of course)?

Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald:

Herro said Tuesday that the Heat made its initial extension offer on July 1, the first day that he became eligible for one. The first offer was four years, $100 million, Herro said.

The Heat, over the ensuing weeks, raised the offer to “like $112 [million], then $120 [million] and then $130” million, factoring in potential incentives, Herro said.

The significance of the Heat offering Herro an extension July 1: That shows they wanted to keep him rather than use him in a trade for someone like Kevin Durant or Donovan Mitchell. Once he signed the extension, Herro counts at his actual 2022-23 salary outgoing in a trade but the average of his salaries in 2022-23 and the four seasons of the extension outgoing.

Simply, trading Herro became far more complicated with the extension – a burden Miami wouldn't have accepted if wanting to trade Herro. The Heat were apparently willing to accept that limitation as early as July 1.

Andre Drummond

Bulls center Andre Drummond has made 3-of-4 3-pointers this preseason.

Like many centers, Drummond relishes opportunities to play like a guard. With the Pistons, Stan Van Gundy did the best job satisfying Drummond's desire to touch the ball more often, having the center serve as a passing hub from the high post. Drummond was actually good at that. Forays into shooting have been more erratic.

Drummond tried to make himself a threat from beyond the arc his last season-and-a-half in Detroit, but he connected on just 6-of-59 triples (10%).

Maybe this will be different.

If not, Chicago could again tap Drummond's passing. Already an offense not defined by traditional positional roles, the Bulls are down a playmaker with point guard Lonzo Ball injured.

Zach Lowe

Zach Lowe of ESPN published the top 10 of his annual League Pass Rankings.

The most watchable team: the Brooklyn Nets. And on some nights, I totally agree. They have the lure of massive untapped upside – or the possibility of spectacular failure. But when Kyrie Irving is out, there just isn't the same appeal (in either direction).

The safer pick is Lowe's second choice: the Golden State Warriors. Their chemistry is under the microscope after Draymond Green punched Jordan Poole. Plus, not only do the Warriors play a well-established enjoyable style of basketball, they're trying to integrate several intriguing youngsters, creating a compelling present-vs.-future debate.

Patrick Ewing

Georgetown posted an enjoyable video of Patrick Ewing watching his current Hoyas players trying to name 90s Knicks by pictures. Considering these Georgetown players weren't even born when Ewing last played for New York, I thought they did pretty well. But it is fun to watch them struggle.

For anyone – Hoya or otherwise – wanting to brush up on their 90s Knicks, I recommend "Blood in the Garden" by Chris Herring.

Sacramento Kings

The Kings installed a bell in their practice facility to honor certain overlooked plays. Harrison Barnes earned the first ring by taking a charge. But when someone hit the bell, it broke.

Classic Kangz.

They have since replaced the bell.

Trey Murphy III

Speaking of bloopers, Pelicans forward Trey Murphy III broke up Kyle Lowry's hit-ahead pass to Bam Adebayo – right off the backboard into New Orleans' own basket. Adebayo quickly raised his hand to claim credit for the bucket, which he was entitled to as the closest Heat player.

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7 in 106 (Eastern Conference Mailbag 12.8.25)

7 in 106 (Eastern Conference Mailbag 12.8.25)

Hawks — 3:36Should the Hawks trade Trae Young plus two juicy Bucks/Pels picks for Giannis, and how would that look from both teams’ perspectives?If the Hawks keep Trae, re-sign him reasonably, and just add this incoming Pelicans pick, can that path ever realistically lead to a championship?Do you buy Onyeka Okongwu’s three-point shooting, and if you do, is he a top-15 center in the league?Celtics — 13:20If you’re the Celtics, how should you play out the rest of the season—go all out because there’s no super-team in the East, or pull back at some point to protect health?How useful will their increased turnover forcing and more egalitarian offense be once Jayson Tatum returns, and which rotation guys could actually be part of a high-level playoff rotation?Is Jaylen Brown genuinely improved compared to prior years, or is it mostly that the mid-range is falling more; and if it’s shot luck, how long would he have to sustain this for it to be “real”?Nets — 22:36Is Michael Porter more valuable to the Nets as an on-court player to get them back into the playoff mix, or as a trade asset?Can you do as deep a dive as possible on Noah Clowney’s game and development?Were pundits too quick to call the Nets’ draft a disaster given how much their rookies are now playing?Hornets — 31:06What has happened to LaMelo Ball—he was an All-Star before, so is this decline just injuries and lack of progression?What are some potential trades for Miles Bridges, Ball, and Sexton?Do you sense a shift in the Hornets’ organizational philosophy under the new regime?Bulls — 39:10John Hollinger has said the Suns turned down the Pelicans/Hawks pick deal; do you know if that exact deal (or better) was offered to other teams like the Bulls or Blazers, or is that just logical inference?Should the Bulls go all-in and trade for Anthony Davis, and what could they realistically get for Coby White if Artūras Karnišovas canvassed the league?The Bulls are trying to make up for their talent deficit by running on everything—does that strategy backfire (more injuries, better teams separating with more possessions), or is it actually their best path?Cavs — 50:20How concerned are you about the Cavs’ bad start, and in particular about Darius Garland’s play and health?What are your thoughts on Jaylon Tyson’s development so far?Should Cleveland start trying to get out of the second apron, and what would it take to do that?Pistons — 58:06Good or bad, what has been the most surprising thing about the Eastern Conference so far this season?Besides Giannis and Lauri Markkanen, what other players would be a good fit for the Pistons and actually gettable?Would Sam Hauser be a good target for the Pistons given his price point and role, and how does he fit relative to what they already have (e.g. Duncan Robinson–type shooters)? Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

8 Des 1h 6min

Live Mailbag! (12.2.25) + Thursday Daily Duncs (12/4/25)

Live Mailbag! (12.2.25) + Thursday Daily Duncs (12/4/25)

With the East so open, should the Pistons push their chips in now for a star forward like Jaren Jackson Jr. (or Markkanen/AD), and what would that kind of trade cost?Is an Austin Reaves–Luka Dončić backcourt too weak defensively for the Lakers to be a true championship contender?⁠Full Daily Duncs with links⁠⁠Lawrence FrankChris Paul-ClippersChris PaulL.A. ClippersCleveland CavaliersGiannis AntetokounmpoSpurs-MagicPistons-BucksDunc'd On LivePat SpencerDenver NuggetsDenver Nuggets⁠Full Daily Duncs with links⁠ Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

5 Des 17min

Giannis for Real Now? DET @ MIL; SAS @ ORL; Murray’s 52; CP Sent Home

Giannis for Real Now? DET @ MIL; SAS @ ORL; Murray’s 52; CP Sent Home

Giannis Antetokounmpo’s potential trade request leads off the show, as Nate and Danny retrace how Milwaukee got here and debate where he could go next.They then break down Bucks/Pistons, highlighted by Giannis’ calf injury, Doc Rivers’ clever 2–3 zone, and Jericho Sims’ decisive and-one.San Antonio/Orlando follows, with Dylan Harper’s electric playmaking, De’Aaron Fox’s tough shotmaking, and Luke Kornet’s game-saving block on Franz Wagner.Jamal Murray’s 52-point explosion against Indiana ranks among the most efficient 50-point games ever.A shorthanded Warriors/Thunder matchup features Pat Spencer’s breakout, Seth Curry’s debut, and OKC’s defensive lapses.Finally, Chris Paul’s exit from the Clippers headlines a lengthy news segment on injuries and updates around the league.Giannis’ looming trade request, the Bucks’ timeline, and possible destinations and returns. 0:30Bucks/Pistons: Giannis’ calf injury, Doc’s 2–3 zone on Cade, Sims’ putback, and Detroit’s crunch-time collapse. 17:30Spurs @ Magic: Harper vs Fox, Orlando’s paint attack, and Luke Kornet’s game-saving block on Franz. 25:47Jamal Murray drops 52 on Indiana and what it reveals about Denver’s season and their home/road split. 45:38Warriors/Thunder in SF: Pat Spencer’s shock performance, OKC’s shorthanded defense, Seth Curry signing, and Kuminga’s health. 50:08Chris Paul sent home by the Clippers, locker-room dynamics, Ty Lue/Lawrence Frank, and what’s next for CP3. 58:59News (league-wide injuries/updates: Nuggets, Clippers, Lakers, Heat, Pelicans, Wizards, Knicks, Kings, Celtics, Nets, Bulls, Hornets, and more). 1:06:41 Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

4 Des 1h 24min

NBA Awards (December 2, 2025)

NBA Awards (December 2, 2025)

Nate and Danny take their first crack at the NBA awards. Jokic, Shai, Luka, or Giannis for MVP? 00:01:38We break down a ridiculously deep field for the All-NBA teams, with over 25 legitimate candidates. 00:28:59Then, Defensive Player of the Year, with some surprising and some familiar candidates. 00:57:59Coach of the Year is another great one with coaches who have totally overhauled their systems, and others who have continued consistent excellence. 01:05:42Sixth Man of the Year also has some great options, although Nate and Danny have much different approaches to this award than the typical voter. 01:14:11Who is the leader for Rookie of the Year in a really talented class? 01:22:15People have been low on the 2024 draft, but some sophomores have started emerging. Who is the Sophomore of the Year? 01:29:17 Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

2 Des 1h 37min

NBA Cup Quarterfinals are SET!

NBA Cup Quarterfinals are SET!

Nate and Danny break down all the action on point differential night! Orlando and Detroit was a fascinating matchup of two hungry, athletic, physical teams.Cleveland had a chance to advance as the wild card, but the Hawks defense stifled them late. 29:00Jalen Brunson out-dueled Giannis down the stretch in a win or go home game to reach the quarterfinals. 42:53Denver disappointingly blew an 18 point lead to San Antonio at home to again bow out of the NBA Cup, as the Spurs make the quarterfinals. 50:14Phoenix continues its plucky resurgence but ultimately Shai was too much. 1:05:07Plus, we catch up on the latest news around the league. 1:13:22 Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

29 Nov 1h 24min

Full 15 in 60! (Western Conference 11.24.25)

Full 15 in 60! (Western Conference 11.24.25)

Our bi-weekly look at the Western Conference! LAL @ UTA: The Lakers hold on against the Jazz in LeBron James’ second game of the season.NOP @ DAL: Two young teams go at each other in a fun matchup over the weekend.POR: What makes Deni Avdija so hard to stop?MIN: Rob Dillingham just isn’t a rotation player right now for a team with the Wolves’ aspirationsDEN: How could they use Cam Johnson more?HOU: How real is their 3-point shooting?PHX: Collin Gillespie has been a big part of the Suns’ resurgenceLAC: James Harden’s 55-point game was a ton of fun to watchSAS: David Jones-Garcia looks like a solid stopgap with their guard injuriesMEM: Jaylen Wells has struggled in his second yearOKC: Their 31-4 run in 15 possessions against UtahGSW: Moses Moody is finally getting major minutesSAC: Getting Keegan Murray back will help them return to respectability Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

24 Nov 2h 3min

LATE Night NBA Cup Friday

LATE Night NBA Cup Friday

Denver and Houston was a fascinating tactical matchup between two of the three-best teams in the league with a lot of different pitches to throw. Phoenix’s new identity helped them steal a game they had no business winning against the Wolves. 33:43Portland took control of their own destiny in the West Group of Death with an upset over Golden State. 46:24We look at the rest of the NBA Cup standings and scenarios, then discuss the latest news including LaMelo Ball and Anthony Davis potentially being on the block. 1:02:24 Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

22 Nov 1h 19min

CHA 15 in 60

CHA 15 in 60

CHA: Kon Knueppel has truly impressed early on Join Dunc’d On Prime! It's the only place to get every episode with Nate & Danny, plus every pod with John Hollinger & Nate as well!Subscribe on YouTube to get Dunc'd On Clutch Calls, Real Video Scouts, and more.Or, sign up for our FREE mailing list to get Dan Feldman's Daily Duncs with all the major topics around the league twice a week. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

21 Nov 15min

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