The Dr Vonda Show23 Sep 2025

Can We Trust AI With Justice & Healthcare? | HFYH #132

In this episode, Dr. Vonda Wright sits down with Gabrielle McKenzie, founder of the Fair Code Initiative and Columbia Law–mentored researcher on algorithmic accountability, and Isabella Wright, a rising scholar focused on constitutional protections in the age of AI. Together, they spotlight how proprietary, black-box tools are increasingly shaping real-world decisions—from courtrooms to clinics—and why transparency, oversight, and human judgment still matter.

They explore how risk-assessment algorithms inform bail and sentencing, what data they ingest (age, ZIP code, race), and the constitutional stakes for due process and the Equal Protection Clause. The conversation breaks down bias vs. correlation, where AI can help vs. harm, and the limits of "efficiency" when liberty is on the line.
The trio also covers practical steps: public education, standards for auditing and disclosure, engaging policymakers, and mobilizing grassroots advocacy—plus parallels in healthcare, where insurer algorithms can influence access to care.

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