BIG INTV: Patreon CEO Jack Conte Wants You to Get Off of Your Phone

BIG INTV: Patreon CEO Jack Conte Wants You to Get Off of Your Phone

Jack Conte, founder of Patreon tells Katie if we can send rockets into space and have self-driving cars we can figure out how to pay creators for their work. In this interview recorded in front of a live audience in San Francisco, Jack talks about how to build a lifelong audience beyond clicks, and why keeping Patreon a private company has been a strength.


Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian's newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social protests.

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A Tariff Standoff with China, Power Outages and the End of Christmas

A Tariff Standoff with China, Power Outages and the End of Christmas

President Trump’s tariff standoff with China has caused chaos, confusion and major delays for companies of all shapes and sizes. As everyone waits to see what happens next, some businesses that depend on international trade are already feeling major impacts, saying that they might not meet their production deadlines. And one of those deadlines is pretty important: Christmas. Today on the show, we're joined by WIRED's Senior Business Editor Louise Matsakis to talk through the latest on tariffs.Articles mentioned in this episode  Donald Trump Is Already Ruining Christmas OpenAI Adds Shopping to ChatGPT in a Challenge to Google The Agonizing Task of Turning Europe’s Power Back On You can follow Zoë Schiffer on Bluesky @zoeschiffer.  Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

29 Apr 15min

Protecting Your Phone—and Your Privacy—at the US Border

Protecting Your Phone—and Your Privacy—at the US Border

Under the new Trump administration, more and more visa holders and foreign visitors are being detained or denied entry at the border. It’s also becoming more common for people to be questioned or detained because of content on their phones, laptops and cameras. In today’s episode, we’ll tell you what you need to know about your carrying devices across the US border, and how to stay safe. Plus, we share some pretty spectacular recommendations for your downtime.You can follow our hosts on Bluesky—Michael Calore is @snackfight, Lauren Goode is @laurengoode, and Katie Drummond is @katie-drummond. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

24 Apr 39min

Is Telsa on the Outs in China?

Is Telsa on the Outs in China?

China has long been a really important market for Tesla and for Elon Musk, but after the rising US tariffs and rising competition in the electric vehicle market – Tesla may be on the outs in China. Today on the show, we’re joined by Zeyi Yang, senior writer at WIRED, to talk about what it all means for Elon Musk’s company. Articles mentioned in this episode  DOGE Is Building a Master Database to Surveil and Track Immigrants Stumbling and Overheating, Most Humanoid Robots Fail to Finish Half-Marathon in Beijing You can follow Zoë Schiffer on Bluesky @zoeschiffer.  Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

22 Apr 17min

How Americans Are Surveilled During Protests

How Americans Are Surveilled During Protests

There have been a number of protests in the past few months pushing back against President Trump’s most recent policy changes, and we're likely to see more. Today on the show, WIRED’s Senior Editor of Security and Investigations, Andrew Couts, talks us through the technology being used by law enforcement to surveil protests, how surveillance tech has evolved over the years, and what it means for anyone taking to the streets or posting to social media to voice their concerns. Plus, we share WIRED tips on how to stay safe, should you choose to protest. You can follow our hosts on Bluesky— Michael Calore is @snackfight, Lauren Goode is @laurengoode, and Katie Drummond is @katie-drummond. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

17 Apr 29min

Will Meta Really Have to Sell Instagram and WhatsApp?

Will Meta Really Have to Sell Instagram and WhatsApp?

The trial between the US Federal Trade Commission and Meta began this week—and the future of the company is at stake. The FTC wants Meta to sell off two prized assets, Instagram and WhatsApp, arguing that it acquired them illegally to suppress competition. Today on the show, Senior Writer Paresh Dave joins host Zoë Schiffer to talk about what we know right now about the government’s case—and what we learned when Mark Zuckerberg took the stand Monday. Articles mentioned in this episode FTC v Meta Trial: The future of Instagram and Whatsapp is at stake  Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

15 Apr 17min

What The Actual Tariff

What The Actual Tariff

It’s been total chaos since President Trump announced tariffs last week. Despite the endless reporting on this story, none of it really makes any sense yet. So today, we attempt to make sense of how the tariffs could revamp the entire tech industry and what you can do to deal with this new normal. You can follow our hosts on Bluesky— Michael Calore is @snackfight, Lauren Goode is @laurengoode, and Katie Drummond is @katie-drummond. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

10 Apr 42min

Why the Market Is Going Crazy This Week

Why the Market Is Going Crazy This Week

WIRED’s Louise Matsakis joins Zoë Schiffer, WIRED’s Director of Business & Industry, to talk about this week’s market madness and why the US probably won’t have armies of people screwing in little screws to make iPhones anytime soon.Articles mentioned in this episode:  Trump Tariffs Hit Antarctic Islands Inhabited by Zero Humans and Many Penguins Trump and DOGE Defund Program That Boosted American Manufacturing for Decades Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

8 Apr 20min

Is Silicon Valley Actually Libertarian? (Re-Run)

Is Silicon Valley Actually Libertarian? (Re-Run)

It's long been believed that Silicon Valley is a hotbed for libertarian ideals, but where did that idea come from? Aside from some high-profile tech founders and investors who either identify as libertarian or express libertarian-esque beliefs, does this set of ideologies really define the Valley? And what is libertarianism anyway?  You can follow Michael Calore on Bluesky at @snackfight, Lauren Goode on Bluesky at @laurengoode, and Zoë Schiffer on Bluesky @zoeschiffer. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

3 Apr 39min

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