Interview | Nilo Tabrizy on the Cost of Telling Iran’s Story

Interview | Nilo Tabrizy on the Cost of Telling Iran’s Story

In this episode of Growing Up Irooni, journalist Nilo Tabrizy joins Leyla Shams to talk about her groundbreaking book For the Sun After Long Nights — The Story of Iran’s Women-Led Uprising, recently long-listed for the National Book Award.
Nilo reflects on what it means to love a country she can no longer return to, the emotional toll of reporting on Iran from afar, and her friendship and collaboration with Iranian journalist Fatemeh Jamalpour, who reported from inside Iran during the Women Life Freedom movement.

Together they discuss:

  • The personal cost of choosing to tell Iran’s story

  • The rise of forensic journalism and verifying truth in the digital age

  • The trauma and beauty of living between worlds

  • The responsibility and tensions within the Iranian diaspora

  • Why every act of defiance by Iranian women still matters


This conversation offers a rare glimpse into the human side of reporting on revolution, identity, and belonging.


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In this final part of the discussion of Simin Behbahani's dobāré meesāzamat vatan, we go over the end of the poem in detail.

2 Aug 21min

Poetry | Simin Behbahani's dobāré meesāzamet vatan, Part 5

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In this fifth part of the discussion of Simin Behbahani's dobāré meesāzamat vatan, we go over the second-to-last part of the poem in detail.

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29 Jul 1h 11min

Poetry | Simin Behbahani's dobāré meesāzamet vatan, Part 4

Poetry | Simin Behbahani's dobāré meesāzamet vatan, Part 4

In this fourth part of the discussion of Simin Behbahani's dobāré meesāzamat vatan, we go over the next six lines of the poem in detail.

20 Jul 19min

Interview | Yasmin Khan on Food, Culture & Compassion Across Borders

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In this episode, Leyla sits down with Yasmin Khan — the acclaimed British-Iranian-Pakistani food writer, activist, and author of *The Saffron Tales*, *Zaitoun*, *Ripe Figs*, and her newest cookbook, *...

13 Jul 59min

Poetry | Simin Behbahani's dobāré meesāzamet vatan, Part 3

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In this third part of the discussion of Simin Behbahani's dobāré meesāzamat vatan, we go over the next six lines of the poem in detail.

12 Jul 12min

Poetry | Simin Behbahani's dobāré meesāzamet vatan, Part 2

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