An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast

Two previously unlikely friends, an ex-Mormon (Kate) and a never-Mormon (Erika) deconstruct the quirks and contradictions of the Mormon faith with humor and empathy. And cocktails.

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Episoder(77)

Ep. 28 - Restoration or Racketeering? With Guest Joe Rawlins

Ep. 28 - Restoration or Racketeering? With Guest Joe Rawlins

Two NoMos continue to explore the lies, fabrications, and discrepancies from the Mormon church that were exposed by the CES Letter. Joe Rawlins lends his expertise. Check out his podcast, "The Church ...

20 Aug 20251h 17min

Clip - Joseph Smith Was a FRAUD

Clip - Joseph Smith Was a FRAUD

Joseph Smith was a fraud and a scheister. There is SO MUCH information readily available to refute most of his claims, it’s bonkers that there is even a single member left in the Mormon church. Two N...

19 Aug 202558s

Ep. 27 - Joseph Smith: Lost in Translation With Guest Rob Tobler

Ep. 27 - Joseph Smith: Lost in Translation With Guest Rob Tobler

Two NoMos dive further into the lies exposed by the CES letter with special guest, Rob Tobler. You can find more content from Rob on TikTok at @president_please_help_me.

13 Aug 20251h 1min

Clip - Responding to Mormon Missionaries....

Clip - Responding to Mormon Missionaries....

Most people are annoyed when the Mormon missionaries come a knockin'. Erika is not most people...

13 Aug 20251min

Clip - Structurally Supported Abuse in the Mormon Church

Clip - Structurally Supported Abuse in the Mormon Church

All of Erika's hairs stood on end when she heard this talk by Alyssa Grenfell at the Sunstone Symposium. Abuse of children is actually baked in to the structure of the church.  Bone chilling. Check o...

8 Aug 20251min

Clip - Piety to Obtain a Bangin Wife?

Clip - Piety to Obtain a Bangin Wife?

Mormons like to say they are "In the world but not of the world." But the very worldly messaging young missionary men receive is anything but pious, and about as basic and worldly as you can get...

7 Aug 20252min

Ep. 26 - Shining at Sunstone

Ep. 26 - Shining at Sunstone

Kate and Erika had a phenomenal time at the Sunstone Symposium, attending talks by Natasha Helfer, John Dehlin, and Alyssa Grenfell. In this episode, they discuss the highlights.

7 Aug 20251h 8min

Clip - "No One From the Church Called When My Son Died."

Clip - "No One From the Church Called When My Son Died."

Guest René Steelman's son died on Christmas Day. Because she had recently left the Mormon faith, no one from the church bothered to reach out to her with comfort. Their "love" was conditional on her b...

6 Aug 202551s

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