An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast

Two previously unlikely friends, an ex-Mormon (Kate) and a never-Mormon (Erika) deconstruct the quirks and contradictions of the Mormon faith with humor and empathy. And cocktails.

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Episoder(77)

Clip - The EXACT Moment Kate Left the Mormon Church

Clip - The EXACT Moment Kate Left the Mormon Church

The CES letter that highlights all the hypocrisy, falsehoods, and discrepancies of the Mormon church broke Kate's "shelf." So she informed her bishop with confidence and in no uncertain terms that she...

5 Aug 202559s

Clip - Natasha Helfer EXCOMMUNICATED for Sharing Facts

Clip - Natasha Helfer EXCOMMUNICATED for Sharing Facts

Clip - Kate, Erika, and René discuss the excommunication of therapist Natasha Helfer from the Mormon church for sharing factual information with her clients. She refused to spread the harmful messagin...

31 Jul 202533s

Ep. 25 - Belief CES-Sation: Examining the CES Letter

Ep. 25 - Belief CES-Sation: Examining the CES Letter

It’s been two years since Kate left the LDS Church—and what better way to mark the occasion than with a deep dive into the infamous document that helped blow her shelf to smithereens? In this episode,...

29 Jul 20251h 21min

Clip - Women Can Grow Humans AND Be Great Leaders

Clip - Women Can Grow Humans AND Be Great Leaders

We tried, we really tried to get through a significant chunk of and episode of Ward Radio" with Joe Rawlins on his podcast, "The Church of Korihor." But these Two No Mos just couldn't keep their mouth...

28 Jul 20251min

Ep. 24 - Let's Talk About Mental Health, Baby!

Ep. 24 - Let's Talk About Mental Health, Baby!

In this episode, an ExMo and a NeverMo and another ExMo talk about the effects of Mormonism on mental health. Buckle up for some deep conversations, laughter, and an announcement about the future of t...

26 Jul 20251h 24min

Clip - "You're Taught to Hate Yourself."

Clip - "You're Taught to Hate Yourself."

Kate and Erika had a wonderful chat with Jonathan Alder, who wrote “Closeted,” about his experiences as a gay student at BYU. Spoiler alert: The experiences were not good. You can find his book here:...

25 Jul 202542s

Clip - When Self-Loathing Is a "Virtue"

Clip - When Self-Loathing Is a "Virtue"

Sam Nieves is gaying away the the pray! While he underwent destructive and traumatic conversion therapy, where he was praised for h@ting himself, he is now healing and thriving and helping others to ...

21 Jul 202535s

Clip - "YOU ARE WORTHY."

Clip - "YOU ARE WORTHY."

Chris Davis Proud reads from her book, “Worthy.”  What an honor it was to hear this “ExMo Lesbo’s” story, from trials to triumph. She is using her voice to help others find theirs.  ♥️🧡💛💚💙💜 You...

19 Jul 20251min

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