Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

21-year-old Jasmeen Kaur is stalked and abducted from her workplace, subdued and placed into the boot of a car, transported along gravel roads to an isolated area, and buried alive by her ex-boyfriend, Tarikjot Singh. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unravel the harrowing story of Jasmeen Kaur, a young nursing student, whose body is found in a shallow grave in South Australia's Flinders Ranges. Delving deep into the chilling facts, they highlight the disturbing acts leading to the crime captured by CCTV, the terror and uncertainty experienced by Jasmeen, and the signs of her desperate struggle while entombed. As they navigate the dark labyrinth of abusive relationships, police involvement, and the physical and psychological traumas endured by the victim, Joe Scott and Dave underscore the grave importance of recognizing and addressing signs of domestic violence.   Time-codes: [00:00:20] Joseph Scott Morgan opens the episode with a narrative about the importance of breath and introduces the topic of the episode, the horrific case of Jasmeen Kaur, a young woman who was buried alive. [00:01:32] - Joe Scott Morgan and Dave Mack elaborate on the eerie sensation of breathlessness, linking it to Jasmeen's case. [00:02:08] - Dave Mack dives into Jasmeen's background, her relationship withTarikjot  Singh, his descent into obsession, and the complaint against Singh for stalking her, which led to a police warning. [00:05:12] - Mack postulates on how police intervention might have aggravated Singh, precipitating Jasmeen's abduction.  [00:07:20] -The chilling recount of Singh's audacious kidnapping of Jasmeen weeks after the police complaint, including the CCTV footage and the haunting sequences leading to the crime. [00:09:00] - A grave discussion on the sheer horror of the act of burying someone alive. Joe Scott Morgan touches upon Jasmeen's deep understanding of breath, drawing from her career as a caretaker.    [00:10:15] - An intriguing detour by Morgan about Australia's distinct geography with a description of the soil and terrain where the crime took place, and speculation on Kaur’s experience as she lay buried alive. [00:13:00] - Exploration of the physical bindings that added to Jasmeen's torment, the jarring journey she endured before the crime, and the fear she would have felt during her transport to the burial location. [00:17:29] - The hosts discuss the nonsensical theory of Jasmeen committing suicide and subsequently burying herself, and provide insight into the victim's relationship with Tarikjot Singh, the man who traumatized her and eventually caused her death. [00:19:40] - Joseph Scott Morgan explains the superficial cut on Jasmeen's throat, provides details about her's burial, discusses the crime scene, and explains how the location of the grave was discovered.  [00:24:34] - Dave Mack seeks insights into Jasmeen's agonizing physical experience during her burial. Morgan underscores the irrefutable proof of Jasmeen's struggle, revealed through the presence of dirt in her respiratory system.  [00:29:06] - Updates on Singh's legal situation are shared, followed by a call for awareness and action against domestic violence. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

25 Jul 202329min

Leno and Rosemary LaBianca tragically find themselves thrust into the darkest depths of human cruelty. Bounded by the twisted whims of their captors, the LaBiancas are subjected to unimaginable terror, and their lives are extinguished in a merciless act of violence. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve deep into the horrifying details of the LaBianca murders, orchestrated by Charles Manson and carried out by Patricia Krenwinkel, Leslie Van Houten, and Tex Watson. They provide a comprehensive historical context and detailed account of the unsettling events leading to the murders, delve into the gruesome details of the crime scenes, uncover the Manson family's bizarre motives, and reveal the disturbing after-effects of their reign of terror.  Time-coded Highlights: 00:20 - Joe Scott Morgan sets the stage, introducing the Manson family and the LaBianca murders.  01:46 - Dave Mack shares his personal connection to the Tate-LaBianca murders. 03:00 - Mack discusses the societal fear instilled by the Manson family crimes. He paints a vivid picture of the public's reaction to the horrifying events. 04:00 - Joe Scott reveals an intriguing fact about the discovery of the LaBianca’s bodies, and describes the panic and fear that these murders instilled in the public and the challenges the police faced. 07:00 - Dave Mack brings up news of Leslie Van Houten's recent release from prison and details the disturbing events leading up to the LaBianca murders, providing more details about the people involved, including Charles Manson and Tex Watson. 10:20 - Morgan provides insight into the Manson family's use of LSD and training in stealthy home invasions, known as 'creepy crawling', and discusses the initial investigation of the LaBianca murder and how investigators initially thought it might be a copycat crime due to the brutality of the Tate murders. 14:28 - Mack shares his personal experience of living in the area during the time of the murders and narrates the chilling events of the LaBianca murders.  18:16 - Rosemary LaBianca's brave fight against her attackers and a glimpse into her final moments. 19:21 - Details of the injuries sustained by Leno LaBianca, which included multiple stab wounds to his neck and abdomen, leading to his death by massive hemorrhage. The carving fork left in Lino's abdomen is mentioned, highlighting the gruesome nature of the crime scene. 24:05 - Morgan explains the importance of preserving evidence at a crime scene, using impaled objects as an example. His expertise in forensic investigation guides listeners through the complexities of examining a crime scene. 30:11 - Morgan differentiates between postmortem and antemortem injuries. His explanation aids listeners in understanding the forensic nuances of a murder investigation. 33:05 - Morgan explores the concept of asymmetry in an attack. His analysis of Leslie Van Houten's dominant position during the crime provides an understanding of the crime dynamics. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

20 Jul 202336min

"Body Bags", host Joseph Scott Morgan and renowned guest Dave Mack explore the complex world of the Gilgo Beach murders suspect Rex Heuermann, as investigators discover 92 gun permits and two storage facilities. With a media circus surrounding the search of Heurmann's possessions, a medical examiner's unexpected presence at one of the storage sites raises eyebrows and questions. What could be lurking inside? As Morgan and Mack unpack the investigative processes, from understanding decomposition to the role of cadaver dogs, they also shed light on a decade-long series of murders in Long Island. Oddities surface, including the peculiar behavior of a killer who seemingly retires after three victims and the challenges of sifting through a hoarder's chaotic household. This episode takes listeners on a rollercoaster of emotions, with new revelations promising to reshape the narrative of the notorious Gilgo Beach cases. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as delve deeper into the mysteries of the Gilgo Beach murders.   Time-coded Highlights: [00:00:00] The episode kicks off with Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack exploring the latest on the Gilgo Beach murders. [00:01:30] Mack drops a bombshell about Huerman's alarming collection of gun permits and the existence of two storage facilities. [00:02:36] Mack comments on the rampant media attention and the unexpected appearance of a medical examiner at one storage site. [00:03:18] Morgan decodes the reasons for summoning a medical examiner to crime scenes, drawing listeners into the world of forensics. [00:06:50] Mack's skepticism surfaces, questioning the examiner's inconsistent appearances at the storage units. [00:08:23] The spotlight turns to Long Island's decade-old mysteries, with Morgan giving insights into a defendant tied to three cases. [00:09:30] The duo ponders the potential use of cadaver dogs before a medical expert's arrival, emphasizing their significance. [00:11:00] Mack and Morgan dissect the erratic behavior of a suspected serial murderer, who ceased his actions after claiming three lives. [00:12:00] Serial killer patterns emerge, with Morgan speculating on their familiarity with hunting grounds and possible storage unit links. [00:14:00] Morgan postulates on killers' tendencies to retain "souvenirs", stressing the importance of a detailed home examination.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

19 Jul 202315min

A chilling 911 call from Shannan Gilbert leads to the discovery of the bodies of Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Costello, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, and Megan Waterman on Long Island's Gilgo Beach, each sharing harrowing similarities: they are all wrapped in burlap and thought to be the victims of a single, unknown killer. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a closer look at the "Gilgo Beach Serial Killer" case, the crucial arrest of Rex Heuermann, and the groundbreaking use of forensic DNA, genetic genealogy, and physical evidence. They weave through the disturbing intricacies of the crime scene, the systematic preservation of the bodies, and the indelible impact on the Long Island community. Highlighting the importance of a careful examination of evidence, from weathered burlap to human hair, they shed light on the grueling process of analyzing skeletal remains and the complexities of such investigations.    Time-Codes: [00:00:20] Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the concept of sackcloth, a symbol often associated with mourning, and links this to the eerie use of burlap in which victims' bodies were discovered on Long Island, New York. He reveals the episode's focus on the unsolved Gilgo Beach murders. [00:02:00] The discovery of at least 11 bodies and disturbing details about four of the victims, all seemingly linked to a singular, unidentified killer. [00:04:00] - Dave Mack recounts the harrowing story of Shannan Gilbert, whose 23-minute-long 911 call ironically led to the unearthing of several bodies.  [00:07:00] - Joe Scott expounds on the idea of geographic profiling and its relevance to the Gilgo Beach case, providing a unique understanding of the killer's methods. [00:09:20] - Potential significance of the killer's use of camouflage burlap. [00:14:09] - Discussion on the difficulties in determining the cause of death from skeletal remains and explanation of the need for a forensic anthropologist in complex cases, highlighting their critical role in helping to unravel the mystery of unidentified remains. [00:19:00] - Focus on the importance of careful handling of evidence, stressing the potential for significant clues being held within items such as the burlap sacks. [00:21:00] - Joe Scott discusses the possibility of finding tool marks on bones and the implications of such findings. He emphasizes the potential of these minor details to unravel larger truths. [00:26:27] - Dave Mack probes the potential evidence left behind as a body decomposes in a burlap bag and questions the potential clues that can be unearthed even from decomposition. [00:28:40] - Joseph Scott Morgan shares his reaction to the news of an arrest in the Gilgo Four case: the apprehension of Rex Heuermann, introducing a potential end to the long-unanswered questions. [00:30:00] - Details about suspect Rex Heuermann, community reactions to his arrest, and discussion on how cutting-edge technology is helping to solve decade-old mysteries, giving victims' families hope of closure. [00:34:43] - The role of behavioral analysis in identifying common patterns among the victims is discussed. [00:37:14] - Delving into the forensic details of how Rex Heuermann’s wife's hair ended up at the crime scene and the role of CODIS in the investigation. [00:39:10] - Explanation of how cell towers and triangulation were used to track the suspect's burner phone. [00:40:00] - Key evidence reveal - a discarded pizza box from which the suspect's DNA was retrieved and an explanation of the process of extracting DNA from saliva on a pizza crust.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

18 Jul 202342min

Neighbors, noticing the unusual absence of 71-year-old Margaret Craig, request that police perform a well-visit check at her residence. Responding police officers are invited into the home, and upon entering the basement, they are met with the smell of decomposition and copious amounts of blood near plastic trash bags. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the disturbing case of Margaret Craig, whose life allegedly ended at the hands of her own daughter and granddaughter. They navigate the complicated nature of the crime scene investigation, discussing the disposal of human remains, the increasing prevalence of dismemberment cases, and the psychological aspect of perpetrators becoming comfortable with such gruesome acts. Joseph Scott and Dave also explore the complexities of forensic analysis, focusing on the methodology and tools used in these horrific acts. They also discuss the challenges faced by investigators in determining the sequence of events and how these intricacies could impact the jury's decision.   Time-Coded Highlights: [00:00:20] Joseph Scott Morgan shares his personal experience using a chainsaw as a young man, setting the stage for the case discussion, and introduces the shocking case of Margaret Craig's death and dismemberment. [00:04:44] The disturbing trend of perpetrators becoming comfortable with dismembering bodies.  [00:08:05] Noticing the absence of Margaret Craig, her neighbor calls for a welfare check. Upon entering the basement, police smell a foul odor and notice blood near three trash bags. [00:11:04] Joe Scott explains the impact of plastic on decomposition, providing insight into the forensic aspects of the case. [00:15:11] Discovery of brain matter and a disappearing knife. [00:20:00] Dave Mack shares the account of Salia Hardy, the granddaughter of the victim, who provides the police with critical information about the crime. [00:22:42] Joe Scott explains the difficulty in determining the sequence of events, particularly with the involvement of a chainsaw. He describes the concept of blood-cast and the unique patterns created during dismemberment with a chainsaw. [00:30:20] Discussion on the methodology and tools used in dismemberment as well as  a witness's report of seeing human remains being placed in a brush fire. [00:32:26] Joseph Scott Morgan questions the presence of brain matter and highlights the importance of tool mark experts and the FBI’s access to different types of chainsaws in their forensic lab. [00:33:57] Dave Mack updates listeners on the current status of the case. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

13 Jul 202334min

Konrad Imirowicz becomes the unfortunate victim of an explosive family dispute, enduring devastating and life-altering injuries that encompass his entire body from head to toe. His prolonged suffering and eventual death are caused by an unsuspecting household item: lye soap. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dive into a chilling case surrounding the brutal death of Konrad Imirowicz, allegedly at the hands of his daughter, Megan, on her 18th birthday. As they unveil the shocking crime scene, Morgan and Mack navigate the intricate dynamics within the Imirowicz family, shedding light on Megan's discontent and the tragic escalation of a family dispute into murder. With a focus on the damning evidence, they provide a glimpse into courtroom proceedings and the bone-chilling verdict.    Subscribe to Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan : Apple Podcasts Spotify iHeart   Time-coded Highlights: [00:00:20] Joseph Scott Morgan shares a nostalgic memory about his grandmother's butter churn and scrub board, unraveling the historical importance of lye, commonly used in soap-making, setting the stage for the episode's focus. [00:02:20] Introduction of the dreadful case of Konrad Imirowicz and Megan Joyce Imirowicz, setting the stage for the familial dynamics in the case. [00:04:53] Discussion on the harsh reality of chemical burns and their often irreversible effects. [00:10:00] Reflection on the shock experienced by medical personnel while treating severely burned Konrad, and discussion on the turbulent family dynamics, revealing Konrad's drinking problem and its impact on Megan's birthday.  [00:12:31] Mack discloses the horrific aftermath of the lye attack, painting a haunting picture of Konrad covered in drain cleaner. [00:17:00] The psychological implications for Megan are discussed, highlighting her decision not to return to the crime scene and instead send her friend. [00:18:20] Morgan talks about the possibility of the victim being hit with multiple items, and how this contrasts with the actual crime scene evidence, focusing on a large plastic container and the presence of a white powder. [00:20:00] The discussion turns to the victim's state of consciousness. [00:26:00] A shocking revelation is made about Megan's behavior post-incident, displaying a lack of concern for her father's critical condition. [00:27:20] Mack reveals an overheard conversation that brings the Michigan State Police into the picture. [00:28:00] Morgan and Mack dissect the improbability of Megan's defense, casting doubt on her innocence. [00:32:40] The host explains the contributing factors to Konrad's death, highlighting his compromised health conditions. [00:33:40] Megan Imirowicz's guilt is confirmed, with potential life imprisonment looming.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

11 Jul 202334min

Self-proclaimed 'Zombie Hunter', Bryan Patrick Miller is found guilty of kidnapping and murdering two young women. His victims, whose murders occur ten months apart from each other, are attacked while bicycling along a canal in Arizona; they are each fatally stabbed, their bodies horrifically mutilated, and each are sexually assaulted. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack weave the cultural phenomenon of the 'zombie apocalypse' into a compelling narrative about Miller, whose gruesome acts leave a long-lasting trauma on his victims and their families. Further unraveling the complex psychology behind Bryan Patrick Miller's actions, they discuss his involvement in the steampunk movement, the importance of forensic science in his eventual capture, and the crucial role forensic genealogist Colleen Fitzpatrick played in identifying Miller as the murderer. They explore the depths of Bryan Patrick Miller's criminal mind and offer a comprehensive look into this unsettling case and the far-reaching implications of his actions.   Time-coded Highlights: 00:20 - Joseph Scott Morgan delves into the intriguing concept of the apocalypse, illuminating how this theme has penetrated various aspects of pop culture, and introduces the case of Bryan Patrick Miller, a man who self-identifies as the 'Zombie Hunter'. 02:40 - Dave Mack speaks of the cultural phenomenon known as the 'zombie apocalypse,' shedding light on how it affects people's behavior and mindset, while Joe Scott emphasizes the trauma inflicted on the victims and their loved ones by Miller's horrifying actions. 04:20 - Dave delves deeper into Miller's background, uncovering his ties to the steampunk movement, including details about the former police vehicle converted into a ‘Zombie Hunter mobile’. 08:20 - The dichotomy between Miller's bold behavior and the façade of safety projected by his public persona.  09:31 - Joseph Scott Morgan reflects on his experiences at the American Academy of Forensic Science meeting, emphasizing the need for multidisciplinary collaboration in solving complex cases and highlighting the value of pooling expertise across disciplines.  10:20 - Drawing a stark parallel between a mountain lion attack and Miller's predatory behavior, Joe Scott shares a chilling anecdote. Dave builds on the analogy, introducing poignant details about Miller's victims and recognizing the diligent police work that eventually led to Miller's capture. 13:28 - Joe Scott and Dave delve into the gruesome specifics of Angela Brosso's murder, linking it to the infamous Black Dahlia case.  16:20 - Discussion of the necessity of meticulous planning and discretion when committing crimes and how these elements facilitated Bryan Patrick Miller's evasion of the law, underscoring the significance of biological evidence left by Miller and outlining its crucial role in securing convictions. 19:00 - Details of the horrifying act of necrophilia committed by Miller, the damning evidence that led to his arrest, and an overview of the timeline of the crimes against Angela Brosso and Melanie Bernas. 24:20 - The meticulous physical assessment conducted at the crime scene of Melanie Bernas and the manner in which forensic experts deduced the type of tool used and the depth of the wounds.  26:30 - Dave Mack discusses Bryan Patrick Miller's criminal history, including a previous stabbing incident and his time in a juvenile correctional facility. 32:03 - The spotlight turns to Colleen Fitzpatrick, whose expertise and passion in forensic genealogy was instrumental in narrowing down the suspect, and the role of modern science in solving such complex cases.  35:50 - The alarming possibility of more undiscovered victims given the boldness of Miller's criminal patterns.38:00 - Information about the conviction and sentencing of Bryan Patrick Miller. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

6 Jul 202336min

A 23-year-old South Korean woman, allegedly obsessed with books and TV shows about crime, is standing trial, accused of murder. Concealing her dark intentions under the guise of a mother in need of an English tutor, Jung Yoo-jung lures an unsuspecting young woman to her home, only to subject her to a gruesome fate of stabbing and dismemberment. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the unsettling case of Jung Yoo-jung, a woman whose fascination with murder took a horrific turn from fandom to felony. They explore the inherent danger and obsession tied to true crime, share their personal experiences, and offer an insightful look into the genre. Joe Scott and Dave also discuss the "God Complex": the sensory experiences tied to violent crimes, and the practical realities of planning and executing crimes.    Time-coded Highlights: 00:00:20 - Joe Scott Morgan shares how he unwinds from his work in forensics and true crime and the measures he takes to maintain balance. He dives into the complex world of true crime, emphasizing its captivating danger and potential for obsession, and sheds light on why this genre draws people in, and what risks it might pose to extreme enthusiasts. 01:40 - Joe Scott introduces Jung Yoo-jung, a woman from South Korea who's not just obsessed with true crime but with the act of murder itself.  02:02 - Dave Mack reveals his fascination with the Manson murders and discusses the profound impact of true crime on his life. He shares his thoughts on the power and influence of such narratives. 07:40 - Joseph Scott Morgan reflects on the uncomfortable questions he often faces about his work with the deceased. 08:20 - Morgan and Mack delve into the chilling story of Jung Yoo-jung, a true crime fan whose obsession led her down a dark path. Their discussion uncovers the disturbing intersection of fandom and criminal activity 10:43 - The infamous Leopold and Loeb case is brought up as a comparison to Jung Yoo-jung's actions, enriching the analysis of Jung's case. 11:42 - Dave Mack provides detailed background information on Jung Yoo-jung, painting a clearer picture of her life and obsessions.  13:08 - Joe Scott introduces an intriguing aspect of violent crime - the interconnected senses of taste and smell. 16:43 - Description of Jung Yoo-jung's calculated approach to finding a victim—disguising herself as a middle schooler—and the alarming lengths she went to fulfill her obsession. 20:00 - Analyzing the suspect's failed plan to make her victim disappear, and discussion of how stabbing injuries can cause profuse bleeding, and the likelihood of leaving behind blood evidence when attempting to dismember a body, even when trying to clean the area. 24:54 - Joseph Scott Morgan cites a movie line about the foolishness of using a taxi to get to a crime scene, putting into perspective Jung Yoo-jung’s imprudent choices during her crime. 26:00 - Dave Mack informs listeners about Jung Yoo-jung's current legal status. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

4 Jul 202326min