Divergent States

Divergent States

Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.


Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.


This isn’t a spiritual podcast.
This isn’t a marketing platform.


No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.


We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.


Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.


Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.


If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.


If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.


New episodes every two weeks.

Episoder(32)

JR Sawyers –  The First Film About Set, Setting, and Psychedelic Therapy? A Trip Elsewhere

JR Sawyers – The First Film About Set, Setting, and Psychedelic Therapy? A Trip Elsewhere

In this deeply personal and eye-opening episode, we sit down with filmmaker JR Sawyers, the mind behind the indie psychedelic drama A Trip Elsewhere. What begins as a conversation about a film turns i...

24 Mar 20251h 7min

The Zendo Project w/Valerie Beltran & Chelsea Rose – What Happens When a Trip Goes Sideways

The Zendo Project w/Valerie Beltran & Chelsea Rose – What Happens When a Trip Goes Sideways

In this powerful episode of Divergent States, we’re joined by Valerie Beltran and Chelsea Rose-Pires of the Zendo Project- an organization redefining harm reduction and compassionate care at festivals...

13 Mar 20251h 7min

DylAlien on Psychedelic Music Culture: Trance Rituals, Cosmic Giggles & Prankster Wisdom

DylAlien on Psychedelic Music Culture: Trance Rituals, Cosmic Giggles & Prankster Wisdom

In this episode of Divergent States, we talk with Dylalien: psychedelic DJ, producer, schoolteacher, and longtime organizer of Goa Gil’s legendary all-night, open-air ritual dance parties. You’ve hear...

23 Feb 20251h 2min

Wendy Tucker on the Shulgin Legacy & the Future of the Farm: Preserving Psychedelic History

Wendy Tucker on the Shulgin Legacy & the Future of the Farm: Preserving Psychedelic History

In this profound episode of Divergent States, we welcome Wendy Tucker, daughter of Ann Shulgin and stepdaughter of the legendary Sasha Shulgin, the "Godfather of Ecstasy." Wendy shares intimate storie...

11 Feb 202548min

Rick Doblin Unplugged: Psychedelics, Parenting, Trauma & the Future of MAPS

Rick Doblin Unplugged: Psychedelics, Parenting, Trauma & the Future of MAPS

In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Rick Doblin, founder of MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies), for a raw, unscripted conversation on the future of psychede...

29 Jan 20251h 6min

Joshua White – Holding the Line: Fireside, Crisis Support & Conscious Integration

Joshua White – Holding the Line: Fireside, Crisis Support & Conscious Integration

In this episode of Divergent States, we talk with Joshua White, founder and executive director of the Fireside Project, a nonprofit creating a revolutionary model of psychedelic support through free, ...

12 Jan 202544min

 Hamilton Morris: r/Psychonaut and the DEA

Hamilton Morris: r/Psychonaut and the DEA

Hamilton Morris joins Divergent States to unpack a bizarre twist in the drug war: the DEA is using Reddit posts and trip reports as courtroom “evidence.” What happens when harm-reduction advice and ha...

24 Des 20241h 22min

Dr Rick Strassman - My Altered States

Dr Rick Strassman - My Altered States

What happens when psychedelic research, spiritual inquiry, and neurodivergence converge? In this premiere episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Dr. Rick Strassman, the groundbreaking researche...

11 Des 202451min

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