Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

A "3rd Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.

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Episoder(64)

S4E10 - A Table Talk on School Choice with Educator LaMonte Rothrock

S4E10 - A Table Talk on School Choice with Educator LaMonte Rothrock

Starting In 2027 the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (signed in 2025) enables scholarships for private school tuition, tutoring, and transportation for families with incomes up to 300% of the area median i...

12 Mai 58min

S4E9 - Are We Making a Difference?

S4E9 - Are We Making a Difference?

You know about earworms, right? It’s a piece of music that gets stuck in your brain and won’t leave you alone. (“Baaabeee shark…”) Sorry about that. There are questions that are like earworms, too. In...

28 Apr 46min

S4E8 - A Table Talk on Democracy with Historian Joel Kauffman

S4E8 - A Table Talk on Democracy with Historian Joel Kauffman

What is the state of our democracy in the U.S. today? What does it mean to be a democracy? Lamar and Tom check in with historian Joel Kauffman on these and other questions. Joel Kauffman is a professo...

14 Apr 54min

S4E7 - 2nd Annual Oddly True for April Fools' Day

S4E7 - 2nd Annual Oddly True for April Fools' Day

It’s Lamar & Tom’s Second Annual Oddly True for April Fools’ Day podcast! Here’s how it works. Each tells the other three stories ripped from the headlines that are odd but true. However, the story te...

31 Mar 47min

S4E6 - Rumors of War

S4E6 - Rumors of War

Have you ever felt disconnected from the decisions that shape our world? Today Lamar and Tom are discussing the tragic loss of six Iowa National Guard members in Kuwait. Their sacrifice reminds us of ...

17 Mar 30min

S4E5 - But What Can I Do?

S4E5 - But What Can I Do?

In this episode of Getting to 3rd Space, we are going to try and answer a question we are getting more frequently from friends, followers, listeners, and viewers: “But what can I do about the situatio...

3 Mar 58min

S4E4 - A Conversation with Liz Weaver

S4E4 - A Conversation with Liz Weaver

Liz Weaver joins Lamar and Tom in this episode of Getting to 3rd Space to talk about collaboration, trust, and transitions. Liz retired recently from her role as Co-CEO of Tamarack Institute in Waterl...

17 Feb 1h 27min

S4E3 - Snoping Around

S4E3 - Snoping Around

When you are wondering about rumors, conspiracy theories, folklore, fake news, and urban legends, who ya gonna call? Not us…but how about Snopes.com?Today Lamar and Tom start by talking about the upco...

3 Feb 1h 1min

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