Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

A "3rd Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.

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Episoder(65)

S4E3 - Snoping Around

S4E3 - Snoping Around

When you are wondering about rumors, conspiracy theories, folklore, fake news, and urban legends, who ya gonna call? Not us…but how about Snopes.com?Today Lamar and Tom start by talking about the upco...

3 Feb 1h 1min

S4E2 - A Table Talk on Truth, Gaslighting, and the Death of Renee Good

S4E2 - A Table Talk on Truth, Gaslighting, and the Death of Renee Good

An American citizen was shot and killed by an ICE officer in Minnesota. The video of the incident was clearly viewed by millions. The truth of what happened is not so clear, especially when the gaslig...

20 Jan 57min

S4E1 - A Table Talk on School Choice with Sen. Stephen Owens

S4E1 - A Table Talk on School Choice with Sen. Stephen Owens

Stephen Owens was Lamar & Tom’s first guest on Getting to 3rd Space in the first season of the podcast. This week he is our first ever Table Talk guest on the podcast and we talk about school choice.D...

6 Jan 1h 22min

S3E25 A Holiday Table Talk and Season 3 Wrap Up

S3E25 A Holiday Table Talk and Season 3 Wrap Up

About this EpisodeIn this holiday-themed episode, Tom and Lamar reflect on their experiences and traditions surrounding December holidays. They share personal stories about their favorite holiday memo...

23 Des 20251h 1min

S3E24 - A Conversation with Michael Gaskins

S3E24 - A Conversation with Michael Gaskins

About this EpisodeMichael Gaskins is a Philadelphian by birth and heart. In fact, he’ll take a soft, chewy Philly pretzel anytime over cookies. He began his career in television production with CBS, N...

9 Des 20251h 9min

S3E23 - A Table Talk on Acts of Kindness and Thanksgiving

S3E23 - A Table Talk on Acts of Kindness and Thanksgiving

This week is Thanksgiving in the United States and Lamar & Tom take time to celebrate by sharing acts of kindness submitted by listeners and viewers over the last two months.Since August 2025, Lamar &...

25 Nov 20251h 12min

S3E22 - Part 2 - A Conversation with Christie Vilsack

S3E22 - Part 2 - A Conversation with Christie Vilsack

This episode of Getting to 3rd Space is Part 2 of our conversation with Christie Vilsack, writer, teacher, Former First Lady of Iowa, and sponsor of the Navy’s U.S.S. Iowa, a nuclear submarine. Our co...

11 Nov 202554min

S3E21 - Part 1 of A Conversation with Christie Vilsack

S3E21 - Part 1 of A Conversation with Christie Vilsack

Today’s guest on Getting to 3rd Space is Christie Vilsack. She describes herself as a "Teacher, writer, wife, mom and gramma. Proud Iowa first lady, congressional candidate, and USAID education adviso...

28 Okt 202548min

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