
S2E2 - A Conversation with Seth Kaplan - Part 2
Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! This is the second part of a two-part interview with Seth Kaplan, who is the author of a new book titled “Fragile Neighborhoods.” Seth Kaplan is rec...
1 Feb 202445min

Meet Lamar, Tom, and Getting to Third Space (Trailer)
Isn't it time you checked us out? Join Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus (two former clergy, former counselors, and still lifelong friends) in this newish podcast on how to talk with one another. Together they ...
8 Jan 20241min

S2E1 - A Conversation with Seth Kaplan-Part 1
Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! To kick-off Season 2, Lamar & Tom have a special guest. Seth Kaplan is the author of a new book titled “Fragile Neighborhoods.” Seth Kaplan is recog...
8 Jan 202454min

S1E6 - Season 1 Wrap Up and Seasons Greetings
Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! To mark the end of Season 1, Lamar & Tom talk about their lessons learned since they started this podcast adventure. From cameras to microphones to ...
6 Des 202340min

S1E5 - Conversation with Representative Stephen Owens
Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! In this podcast, Lamar & Tom talk with their first ever guest, Stephen Owens, representing the 74th District in the Kansas House of Representatives...
27 Nov 202353min

S1E4 - Five Factors for Civil Conversations & Unusual Health Risks in the News
Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! In this podcast Lamar and Tom discuss five factors that contribute to having civil conversations: trust, respect, honesty, reciprocity (or mutuality...
11 Nov 202345min

S1E3 - Barriers, Bears, and Gummy Bears
Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! In this podcast, released on October 21, 2023, Lamar & Tom discuss barriers and guidelines for productive civil conversations. The barriers they con...
20 Okt 202341min

S1E2 - Noam Chomsky, Exhausted Americans, & Bob the Old Goat
Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! In this podcast, released on September 26, 2023, they discuss this quote, submitted by a listener, from Noam Chomsky, which appeared in his 1998 boo...
26 Sep 202340min


















