ZONE 7: Procedural Chaos: Inside the Mangione Hearing That’s Putting Police Training on Trial

ZONE 7: Procedural Chaos: Inside the Mangione Hearing That’s Putting Police Training on Trial

In this week’s Crime Roundup, Sheryl McCollum and Joshua Schiffer Break down the federal hearing surrounding Luigi Mangione, the suspect accused of assassinating UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in December of 2024. What began as a five-day manhunt has become a master class in what not to do, with missed warrants, coached testimony, and evidence on the verge of being thrown out.

Sheryl and Joshua examine how procedural missteps could weaken a potential death penalty case and why “get a warrant” isn't just good advice; it's the foundation of justice. They then turned their attention to Massachusetts, where the trial of Brian Walshe, who is accused of killing and dismembering his wife, reveals how arrogance, lies, and a trail of Google searches can expose a killer's truth.

Highlights:

• (0:00) Welcome to Crime Roundup with Sheryl McCollum and Joshua Schiffer

• (0:15) "99 percent of the time, you need a warrant... it won’t hurt your case if you get one and don’t need it.”

• (4:00) Coached testimony and the danger of tailoring officer statements for admissibility

• (7:30) What happens when training, procedure, and pressure collide in the courtroom

• (9:00) How early media leaks and “pre-trial publicity” can poison a case before it begins

• (10:30) The potential collapse of key evidence and its impact on death penalty eligibility

• (12:15) The rules of criminal procedure and what it means when they don’t apply equally

• (17:15) The defense’s dream scenario: getting the weapon suppressed because of a“bad stop”

• (17:45) The Brian Walshe trail and the anatomy of a cover-up

• (19:30) Walshe’s “woke up and she was dead” defense and why it’s collapsing in court

• (21:45) The digital trail: how Google searches reveal motive, method, and mindset

• (23:00) Closing thoughts: why “get a warrant” isn’t optional, it’s the rule of law

About the Hosts

Joshua Schiffer is a veteran trial attorney and one of the Southeast’s most respected legal voices. He is a founding partner at ChancoSchiffer P.C., where he has litigated high-stakes criminal, civil rights, and personal injury cases for over two decades. Known for his bold courtroom presence and ability to clearly explain complex legal issues, Schiffer is a frequent media contributor and a fearless advocate for accountability.


Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an active crime scene investigator for a Metro Atlanta Police Department and the director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, which partners with colleges and universities nationwide. With more than 4 decades of experience, she has worked on thousands of cold cases using her investigative system, The Last 24/361, which integrates evidence, media, and advanced forensic testing. Her work on high-profile cases, including The Boston Strangler, Natalie Holloway, Tupac Shakur and the Moore’s Ford Bridge lynching, earned her an Emmy Award for CSI: Atlanta and induction into the National Law Enforcement Hall of Fame in 2023.

Preorder Sheryl’s upcoming book, Swans Don’t Swim in a Sewer: Lessons in Life,Justice, and Joy from a Forensic Scientist, releasing May 2026 from Simon and Schuster.

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Swans-Dont-Swim-in-a-Sewer/Sheryl-Mac-McCollum/9798895652824

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MONSTER MARRIAGE: ICY THREATS SURGEON MADE YEARS BEFORE KILLING EX-WIFE & NEW HUBBY , COPS

MONSTER MARRIAGE: ICY THREATS SURGEON MADE YEARS BEFORE KILLING EX-WIFE & NEW HUBBY , COPS

An Illinois surgeon accused of gunning down his ex-wife, Monique Tepe, and her husband, the father of their two young children, Spencer Tepe, allegedly threatened to kill Monique nearly a decade ago on “multiple occasions” during their brief marriage. Police arrested Michael D. McKee, 39, at a Chick-fil-A in Rockford, Illinois, on January 10, 2026, and charged him with two counts of murder in the deaths of Spencer and Monique Tepe. Authorities then upgraded the charges against McKee, who now faces premeditated aggravated murder. Police report they have the suspect's vehicle on neighborhood video surveillance in the couple's Ohio neighborhood, arriving just before the murders and leaving shortly after. A search warrant of McKee's luxury Chicago condo results in multiple weapons being found, with one of those weapons preliminarily matching evidence through ballistic testing to the Tepe murder scene. Twelve weeks before McKee is accused of murder, he is sued for malpractice by a Nevada man who claims McKee went into hiding or just disappeared, so he couldn't be served with legal documents papers. Nevada lawyer Dan Laird files the suit, but serving McKee was nearly impossible, as the surgery group he works for gives the attorney a fake address, and the phone number issued by the state medical board for McKee is a fax machine. Joining Nancy Grace: Randy Kessler - Atlanta Trial Lawyer, Emory Law School Professor, Past Chair ABA Family Law Section, and Author of "Divorce, Protect Yourself, Your Kids and Your Future;" Instagram: @rkessler23, X: @GADivorce Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive Koa Lorimor - Former Army Sniper Dr. Thomas Coyne - Chief Medical Examiner, District 2 Medical Examiner's Office, State of Florida; Forensic Pathologist, Neuropathologist, Toxicologist; X: @DrTMCoyne Susan Hendricks - Journalist, Author: “Down the Hill: My Descent into the Double Murder in Delphi;" IG @susan_hendricks X @SusanHendicks Dave Mack - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories' See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

15 Jan 48min

Father's Fury: Dad Sues Ex for Son's Road Rage Execution; Claims Her Middle Finger Doomed 6yo| Crime Alert 6AM 01.15.2026

Father's Fury: Dad Sues Ex for Son's Road Rage Execution; Claims Her Middle Finger Doomed 6yo| Crime Alert 6AM 01.15.2026

A dad blames his ex-wife for their son's road rage murder; he's suing the mom claiming raising her middle at another car finger put their 6yo in the crosshairs. A grave insult for a slain Arkansas mom: she's buried alone, as her abusive ex claims their twins bodies following a triple shooting. Plus, a gym floor face off goes from thrusts to cuffs. Jennifer Gould reports.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

15 Jan 7min

MOM Suzanne Morphew's Body Found in "The Boneyard" Dump: HUSBAND, 'I DIDN'T DO IT"

MOM Suzanne Morphew's Body Found in "The Boneyard" Dump: HUSBAND, 'I DIDN'T DO IT"

Barry Morphew returns to the Alamosa County court to formally face murder charges for the second time. Morphew is soft-spoken in a cream-colored sweater and light-wash jeans, sitting next to attorneys David Beller and Jane Fisher-Byrialsen. His daughters, Mallory and Macy, sat behind him in the first row. Beller enters a not guilty plea on Morphew's behalf. Maintaining his innocence in his wife’s murder, Morphew waives his right to a speedy trial. Defense attorneys and prosecutors, agreeing on the large amounts of data, anticipate that the length of the proceedings requires more time to prepare. The judge sets October 13 for Morphew’s jury trial; it is expected to run up to six weeks. Barry Morphew was originally charged with the murder of his wife in May 2021, but the case was dropped days before trial, after the judge barred prosecutors from calling key witnesses to the State's case, for failing to follow rules in turning over evidence. Former 11th Judicial District Attorney Linda Stanley was later disbarred by the Colorado Supreme Court for significant ethical misconduct. Stanley made inappropriate comments in the media and even improperly investigated the judge in the case. Her actions compromised the Morphew prosecution and led to disciplinary action. Joining Nancy Grace today: Mark Tate - Trial Lawyer, The Tate Law Group Caryn Stark - Forensic Psychologist; Instagram: carynpsych, FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice Scott Eicher - Digital Forensics Expert, Founding Member of the FBI’s Cellular Analysis Survey Team (C.A.S.T); Historical Cellular Analysis Expert; Currently with Precision Cellular Analysis Handling Criminal, Defense and Civil Cases Dr. William Morrone - Medical Examiner, Toxicologist, Pathologist, Opioid Treatment Expert, Author: “American Narcan: Naloxone & Heroin-Fentanyl Associated Mortality” Gregory Nieto - Reporter, Fox 31 Denver - KDVR; X: greg_nieto, IG: nwzdude Dave Mack - 'Crime Stories'  Investigative Reporter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

14 Jan 49min

Long-Delayed NJ Quadruple Murder Trial Finally Begins: Suspect Killed Four Family Members and Torched Two Homes | Crime Alert 6AM 01.14.26

Long-Delayed NJ Quadruple Murder Trial Finally Begins: Suspect Killed Four Family Members and Torched Two Homes | Crime Alert 6AM 01.14.26

A long-delayed quadruple murder trial is now underway in New Jersey, with prosecutors and defense attorneys laying out starkly different versions of how an entire family was wiped out inside their own home. A North Texas reality television husband and wife are now convicted felons after a federal jury found they ran a multi-million-dollar pyramid scheme that prosecutors say preyed on trust inside the Black community during the pandemic. Shock ripples through a small North Carolina town after its police chief is jailed on child sex charges, with prosecutors detailing allegations involving secret photos taken while a child slept. Drew Nelson reports.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

14 Jan 7min

NICK REINER MURDER RAMPAGE TRIGGERED BC HOLLYWOOD WEIGHT GAIN FEARS?

NICK REINER MURDER RAMPAGE TRIGGERED BC HOLLYWOOD WEIGHT GAIN FEARS?

Sources say Nick Reiner believes he’s the victim of a "conspiracy" after killing his parents. It is clear that Reiner knows he killed his parents, but doesn’t understand why he’s in jail. Reiner, delusional, thinks the people who put him there are "conspiring against him." Sources close to the legal proceedings claim it’s likely Reiner will plead not guilty by reason of insanity, placingthe blame on unbalanced schizophrenia meds. Now, claims are being made that a change in medication may have led Reiner to murder his parents. Reiner reported complaining to his doctors that his meds had caused him to gain weight. Changes were made, and some are saying the new medication allegedly caused him to become increasingly "erratic," "dangerous," and isolated, marking a total physical and mental decline. Joining Nancy Grace today: Josh Kolsrud - Criminal Defense Attorney and Former Assistant U.S. Attorney, Founder of Kolsrud Law Offices; Facebook and YouTube @KolsrudLawOffices, Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive Rob Shuter - Host: Naughty But Nice Podcast, Author of Newly-released Novel, “It Started With A Whisper," and Former publicist of Sean Combs; IG: @naughtygossip Dr. DeWayne Hendrix - Former Warden at the MDC in Brooklyn, also served as a Warden in Sheridan, Oregon, Former Senior Warden with the US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder and President of A New Daylight Foundation, Author: "Who Are You? See it Say it and Seize it;" @anewdaylight (IG), @drdewaynehendrix (LinkedIn), @anewdaylight (X) Dr. Kendall Crowns - Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), Host of Podcast "Mayhem in the Morgue," and Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University) Alexis Tereszcuk - "Crime Stories" Investigative Reporter; X @swimmie2009 Sydney Sumner - Investigative Reporter ‘Crime Stories’ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

13 Jan 49min

An Alabama Mystery Endures as Three Men Who Vanished in 1956 Have Yet to Be Found | Crime Alert 6AM 01.13.2026

An Alabama Mystery Endures as Three Men Who Vanished in 1956 Have Yet to Be Found | Crime Alert 6AM 01.13.2026

• Seventy years later, an Alabama disappearance remains the state’s longest-running cold case • Mississippi authorities charge a suspect after six people are killed in a series of shootings • A former federal agent goes on trial in Virginia in the deaths of his wife and another man • Florida schedules its first execution of the year in a case dating back to 1989See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

13 Jan 6min

BIZARRE: BRIEF 'STARTER MARRIAGE' CLUE, DENTIST & WIFE MURDERS @ HOME, TOT KIDS ASLEEP

BIZARRE: BRIEF 'STARTER MARRIAGE' CLUE, DENTIST & WIFE MURDERS @ HOME, TOT KIDS ASLEEP

Investigators obtain all available surveillance video from the Tepe neighborhood, focusing on the time between 2 a.m. and 5 a.m., and release video of one person walking in the alley behind the Tepe home. Police believe that person is Michael McKee. One car with an Illinois license plate arrives in the neighborhood shortly before the Tepe murders take place, and leaves shortly thereafter. The license plate on the vehicle is registered to Michael McKee, a vascular surgeon in Chicago. McKee is also Monique Tepe's ex-husband. The vehicle registered to McKee is traced to Rockford, Illinois, and evidence inside the vehicle links McKee to the murders of Spencer and Monique. Police are not saying what evidence was found in the vehicle, and a motive for the murders has not been made public, but police say there is proof McKee had the vehicle prior to and after the homicides. The arrest warrant for McKee says the murders took place at 3:52 am, and McKee is identified by surveillance video and the vehicle. McKee is charged with two counts of murder and is currently in a Winnebago County jail awaiting extradition to Ohio. Monique Tepe married vascular surgeon Michael McKee in August 2015, but separated as a couple after just seven months. The couple had no children. Monique stated the reason for the divorce was that they were "incompatible." After living separately and apart for a year, divorce proceedings began in May 2017, and the divorce was final the next month. Joining Nancy Grace: Greg Morse - Criminal Defense Attorney of Morse Legal, Author of “The Untested” (found on Amazon) Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author of "Deal Breaker: When to work on a relationship and when to walk away,” and featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive Ron Bateman - Sheriff (Former Homicide and Undercover Narcotics) & Author: "Silent Blue Tears: Voice of The Victims;" X: Ronbatemanbooks, TikTok: @Ron.Bateman.655 Joseph Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan", Instagram @JoScottForensic Susan Hendricks - Journalist, and Author of “Down the Hill: My Descent into the Double Murder in Delphi;" IG @susan_hendricks X @SusanHendicks Dave Mack - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories' See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

12 Jan 46min

Charlie Adelson Fights For New Trial in Death of Dan Markel | Crime Alert 6AM 01.12.26

Charlie Adelson Fights For New Trial in Death of Dan Markel | Crime Alert 6AM 01.12.26

The 1st District Court of Appeal has decided to hold oral arguments in the case of Charlie Adelson, who is seeking a retrial after being convicted for his role in the 2014 murder-for-hire of law professor Dan Markel. A 24-year-old man from Mississippi has been charged with the murder of six individuals, including his father, brother, uncle, and a 7-year-old cousin.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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