Breaking Into Banks and Bypassing Modern Security with Greg Hatcher and John Stigerwalt

Breaking Into Banks and Bypassing Modern Security with Greg Hatcher and John Stigerwalt

Three banks in four days isn't just a bragging right for penetration testers. It's a wake-up call showing that expensive security tools and alarm systems often fail when tested by skilled operators who understand both human behavior and technical vulnerabilities.

Greg Hatcher and John Stigerwalt, co-founders of White Knight Labs, talk about their latest physical penetration tests on financial institutions, manufacturing facilities protecting COVID-19 vaccine production, and why their new Server 2025 course had to rewrite most common Active Directory tools. They share stories of armed guards, police gun draws, poison ivy reconnaissance, and a bag of chips that saved them from serious trouble. The conversation reveals why EDR alone won't stop ransomware, how offline backups remain the exception rather than the rule, and what security controls actually work when attackers bring custom tooling.

Impactful Moments:

00:00 - Intro 01:00 - New training courses launched 03:00 - Server 2025 breaks standard tools 05:00 - COVID facility physical penetration 07:00 - Armed guards change the game 10:00 - Police draw guns on operators 13:00 - Bag of chips saves the day 15:00 - Nighttime versus daytime physical tests 18:00 - VIP home security assessments 20:00 - 2026 threat predictions 22:00 - Why EDR doesn't stop ransomware 27:00 - Low cost ransomware simulation ROI 29:00 - Three banks in four days 32:00 - Deepfake as the new EDR

Links:

Connect with our guests – Greg Hatcher: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregoryhatcher2/ John Stigerwalt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-stigerwalt-90a9b4110/ Learn more about White Knight Labs: https://www.whiteknightlabs.com

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Episode 36 - Life and Purpose Mapping Hacks with Craig Filek

Episode 36 - Life and Purpose Mapping Hacks with Craig Filek

Life and purpose hacks with Craig Filek - One of our favorite episodes to record with a friend of the podcast. Craig Filek gives outstanding perspective on mapping purpose with your life.

30 Jan 202039min

Episode 35 - Not a Moment, But a Movement with Makinde Adeagbo

Episode 35 - Not a Moment, But a Movement with Makinde Adeagbo

Inclusion and diversity are areas that we can all make an impact in. Makinde Adeagbo Founder @ /dev/color shares insightful wisdom for making an impact and bringing diversity to Technology

29 Jan 202025min

Episode 34 - Cybersecurity: New to Good to Great with Susan Peediyakkal

Episode 34 - Cybersecurity: New to Good to Great with Susan Peediyakkal

How do you go from good to great? The question is even more tough when you have limited experience in your focus area. In this episode, Susan Peediyakkal joins the podcast to share her background in Threat Intelligence and successful career pivots while strengthening her craft

29 Jan 202032min

Episode 33 - Demystifying the Zero Trust Model with Kathy Wang

Episode 33 - Demystifying the Zero Trust Model with Kathy Wang

What type of data is your organization processing and storing? How sensitive is your organization's data? In this Episode, Kathy Wang CISO @ FullStory shines light on Zero Trust and building successful security teams.

28 Jan 202017min

Episode 32 - Cyber Transformations and Migrations with Talha Tariq

Episode 32 - Cyber Transformations and Migrations with Talha Tariq

Technology enables companies to constantly stay in touch and enable their customers. As opportunity grows, organizations evolve and focus on technology and data-driven results. Talha Tariq CSO of HashiCorp joins Chris and Ron to talk rapidly deploying and securing organizations while enabling employees.

28 Jan 202031min

Epsode 31 - The Future of Work and Your Purpose with Tim Salau

Epsode 31 - The Future of Work and Your Purpose with Tim Salau

The year 2020 marked the beginning of a new decade. Each year we experience evolving roles and responsibilities in the workplace. In this episode, Tim Salau (Mr. Future of Work) joins Chris and Ron to discuss the future of work and applying purpose.

27 Jan 202039min

Episode 30 - Threat Hunting with Data Science - Roberto Rodriguez

Episode 30 - Threat Hunting with Data Science - Roberto Rodriguez

Being an expert Threat Hunter is great, but how do you scale as fast as the adversary? Roberto Rodriguez (cyb3rward0g) joins the podcast and shares experience for breaking into cybersecurity and creating a community around scaling cybersecurity solutions.

15 Jan 202034min

Episode 29 - Road to The SANS CTI Summit with Rick Holland

Episode 29 - Road to The SANS CTI Summit with Rick Holland

Cyber Threat Intelligence is a topic that evolves as the adversary changes Tactics Techniques and Procedures. In this episode, Rick Holland join Chris and Ron to discuss his journey through CTI and the upcoming CTI Summit   We'd love to meet everyone at the SANS CTI Summit in Washington DC on January 20 Link: http://www.sans.org/u/XJ4 Discount Code: CTIPOD20

14 Jan 202018min

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