Wisdom Journey4 Juni 2025

How to Offer Strategy as a Service (Fractional CMO Model Explained) – Sara Nay | Ep 43

From Intern to CEO: How to Scale Strategy as a Service with Sara Nay

On this episode of Wisdom Journey, host Wisdom Okonkwo sits down with Sara Nay, CEO of Duct Tape Marketing, to explore the world of scaling expertise into high-ticket, sustainable services—without burning out. Sara shares her journey from starting as an intern with little marketing knowledge to becoming CEO and a leader in developing the "fractional CMO" model. If you’ve ever wondered how to transition from execution-heavy roles to high-impact strategy work, or how to turn your skills into long-term, leadership-level engagements, this episode is packed with actionable insights.

Listeners will learn the key mindset shifts necessary for growth, the evolving demand for fractional leadership in business, and why strategy—rather than just execution—is where true value lies. Sara and Wisdom demystify the roles of consultants, coaches, and fractional executives, offering clear breakdowns on pricing, packaging, and avoiding common pitfalls like over-delivering or undercharging. Sara also dives into the impact of AI on marketing and strategy work, and shares her productivity secrets for running a streamlined, client-focused agency.

Guest Bio

Sara Nay is the CEO of Duct Tape Marketing, a nationally recognized brand in marketing strategy for small businesses. With over 14 years of experience rising through the ranks—from intern to executive—Sara is a mentor, trainer, and industry thought leader in the growing field of “fractional CMOs.” She specializes in helping small businesses and content creators scale profitably, and her approach has certified hundreds of consultants, coaches, and agencies seeking to build recurring revenue through strategy-focused services.

Resources & Mentions

Duct Tape Marketing Podcast: Duct Tape Marketing- https://ducttapemarketing.com/
Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell (on delegation and time management)
monday.com: Project management tool for teams
Agency Analytics: Dashboard to track digital marketing metrics
ChatGPT Deep Research / Claude: AI tools for research in marketing strategy
John Jantsch: Founder of Duct Tape Marketing, author and podcast host
https://dtm.world/growth: Sara’s free resources portal

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