Episode 6 | Rory Sullivan: ESG backlash - what’s real and what isn’t?

Episode 6 | Rory Sullivan: ESG backlash - what’s real and what isn’t?

In this episode of The Transition Tapes, Hugh Wheelan talks with Rory Sullivan, CEO and Co-Founder of Chronos Sustainability and a leading global expert on climate change, human rights, and sustainable finance.

With over thirty years of experience across public policy, investment management, and advisory roles, Rory brings a clear-eyed perspective on where ESG stands today, and what serious investors should focus on next.

At a time of growing backlash and confusion around sustainable finance, Rory cuts through the noise to separate substance from rhetoric and sets out what credibility, collaboration, and long-term purpose really mean.

Hear Rory talk about:

  • What the ESG backlash really is and what it isn’t

  • Which investor collaborations still matter now the “tide has gone out”

  • How asset owners can clarify long-term, intergenerational purpose

  • Why sustainable finance needs a return to Economics 101 on materiality, incentives, and regulation

Beyond markets and policy, Rory also shares his love of books, how he works through writer’s block, and the music that fuels his thinking, captured in his Transition Tapes playlist.

Listen to the episode on:

Don’t miss Rory's favourite Transition Tapes playlist.

🎵 ⁠Spotify Playlist

🎵 Apple Playlist

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Episode 13 | Simon Rawson - How should business and finance think about one of their most important assets, their people?

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Episode 12 | Jakob Thomä: Silicon Boundaries: why the social and regulatory pushback on AI could ‘strand’ some of today’s massive tech investment bets?

Episode 12 | Jakob Thomä: Silicon Boundaries: why the social and regulatory pushback on AI could ‘strand’ some of today’s massive tech investment bets?

In this episode of The Transition Tapes, we speak with, Founder & CEO of Theia Finance Labs and Professor in Practice at, about the huge risks embedded in today’s overwhelming investment focus on AI a...

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Episode 11 | Harald Walkate - Rethinking sustainable finance narratives

Episode 11 | Harald Walkate - Rethinking sustainable finance narratives

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Episode 10 | Justine Leigh Bell - How to assess and price transition risks in the bond market

Episode 10 | Justine Leigh Bell - How to assess and price transition risks in the bond market

In this episode of The Transition Tapes, we speak with Justine Leigh-Bell, CEO of the Anthropocene Fixed Income Institute (AFII).Together, we explore the growing importance of transition risk in the $...

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Episode 9 | David Carlin - Rules, risks, and the energy transition

Episode 9 | David Carlin - Rules, risks, and the energy transition

In this episode of The Transition Tapes, Hugh Wheelan speaks with David Carlin, founder of D. A. Carlin and Company, a New York-based sustainability advisory firm, and Visiting Research Fellow at King...

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Episode 8 | Catherine Howarth - Turning shareholding into action

Episode 8 | Catherine Howarth - Turning shareholding into action

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Episode 7 | Rob Bauer: Sustainable investing…belief or evidence?

Episode 7 | Rob Bauer: Sustainable investing…belief or evidence?

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