213. Trolling for Murder: The Killings of Billy and Billie Jean

On October 21, 2009, a 6-year-old neighbor girl who lives nearby shows up and asks if 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten, the youngest of Patty Preiss’s children to come over and play for a bit. At first, Patty said no but we know how convincing two little girls can be and she finally broke and said ok but Elizabeth had to be home by 6 pm for dinner. When 6 pm comes and goes and Elizabeth doesn’t arrive home, her mom knows something is not right. Elizabeth is scared of the dark and would never come home after nightfall. Patty makes a phone call to the neighbor’s house to see what time Elizabeth left their house. Patty is shocked to hear that Elizabeth was never at their house. Police arrive to investigate and what unfolds is a sick and twisted tale. Join Jen and Cam on Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss Broken and Busted: Alyssa Bustamante on this episode. Listener discretion courtesy of energetic Edward October from @octoberpodVHS.OTCP’s Magnificent Melodies by Nico @wetalkofdreams. As if that is not enough, Nico is also our Executive Producer. Promo is by our fellow St. Louis gals who produce the fantastic true-crime podcast, Death by Champagne @deathbychampsSources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Elizabeth_Oltenhttps://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/alyssa-bustamante-40782.phphttps://owlcation.com/social-sciences/Murderous-Children-Alyssa-Bustamantehttps://allthatsinteresting.com/alyssa-bustamantehttps://fox4kc.com/news/jefferson-city-woman-reaches-5m-settlement-with-inmate-in-killing-of-9-year-old-daughter/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2577964/Teenage-thrill-killer-spend-35-years-bars-choking-stabbing-nine-year-old-neighbor-judge-denies-new-trial.htmlVideos:https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=alyssa+bustamante+today+news#id=34&vid=76d50c62c56ba9f4d5fc18dc78a8d545&action=clickhttps://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=AwrC5rLKw6le1jAAHWr7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBncGdyMzQ0BHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEdnRpZAM-;_ylc=X1MDOTY3ODEzMDcEX3IDMgRhY3RuA2NsawRjc3JjcHZpZANTQW9uV3pFd0xqSEZxNUxBWGhJcnRBR0dOekV1TVFBQUFBRG54LlB3BGZyA21jYWZlZQRmcjIDc2EtZ3AEZ3ByaWQDbmVsb0Q2N2hSUVdRMk04Y2QwWnlhQQRuX3JzbHQDMjIEbl9zdWdnAzAEb3JpZ2luA3ZpZGVvLnNlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMEcXN0cmwDMzAEcXVlcnkDYWx5c3NhJTIwYnVzdGFtYW50ZSUyMGVsZWN0cmljBHRfc3RtcAMxNTg4MTg0MDMz?p=alyssa+bustamante+electric&ei=UTF-8&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av%2Cm%3Asa&fr=mcafee#id=2&vid=b4c2b2aa1c020b967d36cc51e25fbcc1&action=view Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

29 Apr 202050min

It is June 4, 1995, in Fredericton, New Brunswick, when eight-year-old Jackie Clarke goes missing. Jackie along with two friends were playing in and around Frog Pond, a pond near their homes located in the woods nearby. That evening, when Jackie didn’t come home, her mother called the parent of one of the friends to see if Jackie was at their house by chance. Hope turned to fear as the child’s mom said not only was Jackie not there but her son had been home for hours. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘A Ride with the Devil: Jackie Clarke’ Listener discretion is by our friend Edward October from @octoberpodVHS.OTCP is executive produced by Nico from @wetalkofdreams. You like our music? Nico does all that too and will help you sound great too. Contact him at https://wetalkofdreams.com/Sources for this episode:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOockJ3elR0https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jackie-clarke-fredericton-murder-the-detectives-1.4856829https://www.facebook.com/911953348815753/posts/warning-disturbing-content-retired-fredericton-detective-mike-richard-is-shown-d/2099621323382277/https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/renous-prisoner-may-testify-in-murder-trial-friday-1.245461https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/detective-who-helped-solve-murder-of-young-girl-reconciles-with-pasthttps://globalnews.ca/news/3585927/new-brunswick-author-journalist-chronicles-1995-murder-of-fredericton-girl-in-book-of-healing-through-psychic-mediums/https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/convicted-killer-murdered-in-n-b-prison-1.186054 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

22 Apr 202041min

We have another Listener Submitted Script for you today!The Blue-Eyed Six was a group of men who thought they had a foolproof plan to make money by taking out life insurance policies on an old recluse, named Joseph Raber. Thinking he was frail and on the verge of death, they hoped for a speedy return on their investment.This crime became an international sensation in 1878. In fact, it was so huge, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the author of Sherlock Holmes, paid homage to the town and the sensational name given to the murderers in his short story 'The Red-Headed League'.The Blue Eyed Six was researched and written by Listener Amie FeltyListener Discretion by Edward October from Octoberpod VHS https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6wProducer, sound editor and music by Nico Vettese from We Talk of Dreams wetalkofdreams.comSources:http://www.murderbygaslight.com/2010/05/blue-eyed-six.htmlhttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6611413/joseph-raberhttps://myhometown-lebanonpa.com/Blue%20Eyed%20Six%20Story%20Two.htmlhttps://myhometown-lebanonpa.com/Blue%20Eyed%20Six.htmlhttps://lebtown.com/2018/10/24/the-true-crime-story-that-made-lebanon-famous-around-the-world-the-blue-eyed-six-plotters-of-a-murder-140-years-ago/Carmean, Edna J. The Blue Eyed Six, Lebanon, PA: Sowers Printing Company. 1974. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

15 Apr 202039min

It is February 2008 in Arlington Heights Illinois, a suburb of Chicago, where we first meet a young man by the name of Justin Newman. Justin is a blonde-haired, blue-eyed 20-year old who was working at a home improvement store and trying to figure out what to do with his life. Justin, who lived with his mother, was a generous kid who had been working since he could so that he could help his mom pay the bills. He was a very likable kid, responsible and hard-working. Working at the improvement store, allowed him to meet a lot of construction workers and contractors and one of these contractors was a man by the name of Ari Squire. This chance meeting would leave a trail of destruction. As is so often the case, not all is what it seems.Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss ‘The Lying Game’ this week. As always, our listener discretion by the awesome Edward from @octoberpodVHS and all music as well as our executive producer is none other than Nico @wetalkofdreams.In order to get this out on time, sources will be added Thursday...yep it’s 3:58 with a 4 pm airtime. Hey, it’s us.http://memorialwebsites.legacy.com/justinnewman/Homepage.aspxhttps://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2010-02-25-ct-met-lake-county-murder-award-20100225-story.htmlhttps://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/ari-squire-justin-newman-sandy-lively-murder-to-fake-own-death/2091810/https://abc7chicago.com/archive/6003474/https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/tag/justin-newmans-murder/https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-ent-copycat-killers-ari-squire-20190222-story.htmlhttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/26786304/justin-michael-newmanhttps://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyherald/obituary.aspx?n=justin-m-newman&pid=108300665&fhid=2057 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

8 Apr 202042min

****Warning**** Graphic ContentDonald "Pee Wee" Gaskins could be one of American most prolific serial killers. Although he was only convicted of killing 9 people- one being a one-year-old baby girl, Pee Wee claimed he had taken the lives of around 110.Come listen to Cam & Jen talks about The Meanest Man in America: Donald "Pee Wee" Gaskins in on of our Listener Submitted Script EpidosesWritten by: Megan MillerListener Descretion by Edward October of OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6wProducer and Original Music by Nico Vittese All information in the episode has been taken from Pee Wee's Book Final Truth https://www.amazon.com/Final-Truth-Autobiography-Serial-Killer/dp/0963242202 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 Apr 20201h 4min

It’s January 18, 1987, at the Alpine Manor Nursing home in Walker, Michigan when a nurse, who was making her rounds, went into the room of a 60-year-old Alzheimer’s patient named Marguerite Chambers. The older woman was unresponsive and not breathing. A team rushed in to revive Marguerite but it was too late. It seems that the woman died sometime during the night. Death is not uncommon in nursing homes but Marguerite was still pretty healthy and her death was not expected. Her family had been in to visit her just the day before and had brought their loved one a balloon bouquet. Her passing was a shock to them but being that she was in a later stage in life, they knew it would happen one day. As is standard practice the staff let the family know and that they needed to come and retrieve her belongings. It was only then that a family member noticed that one of the balloons that they have given their beloved mother and friend was missing. Did someone take one of Marguerite’s balloons and her life? The answer would come but not before others would die just as mysteriously. Join Jen and Cam on this Our True Crime Podcast episode entitled ‘The Murder Game.’This episode is sponsored by Iconic Protein Drinks available at drinkiconic.com or on Amazon. Use code ourtruecrime for a 25% discount on your order. Our listener discretion is courtesy of our friend Edward October from @octoberpodVHSOur Executive Producer, as well as music, is from Nico from @wetalkofdreamsSources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwendolyn_Graham_and_Cathy_Woodes:https://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/03/us/ex-nursing-home-aide-gets-life-term-in-5-patient-killings.htmlhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-11-mn-356-story.htmlhttps://www.ibtimes.com/american-horror-story-season-6-spoilers-who-gwen-graham-cathy-wood-truth-about-2420546"Woman Sentenced In Patients' Deaths" (Nov 3, 1989). Worcester Telegram & Gazette.https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/she-could-do-it-again-serial-nursing-home-killer-released-moving-fort-mill/3D6ZT2Z2TND75DVACIXMUF7V7M/https://killer.cloud/serial-killers/show/548/cathy-woodhttps://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/10/23/catherine-may-wood-gwendolyn-graham-alpine-manor-nursing-home-lethal-lovers-true-crime-murder/1740162002/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

25 Mars 202053min

On July 21, 1972, a man named Gerald John Schaefer picked up two teenage girls who were hitch-hiking. Schaefer told 17-year-old Pamela Wells and 18-year-old Nancy Trotter that hitchhiking was illegal in Martin County. It wasn’t, but they were young, so they believed him. What this stranger had planned for these two young teens would, thankfully, not happen. The story these two girls would tell officers would lead to a trail of victims and from an unlikely suspect. Join Jen and Cam on this Our True Crime Podcast episode entitled ‘To Protect and Serve...and Murder.’ This episode is sponsored by Iconic Protein Drinks available at drinkiconic.com or on Amazon. Use code ourtruecrime for a 25% discount on your order. We are also sponsored by Elemis, the #1 luxury British skincare brand. Visit https://www.elemis.com/us/ourtruecrime to get your discount on a product you will love. Our listener discretion is courtesy of our friend Edward from @octoberpodVHSOur Executive Producer and composer of our theme music, the great Nico Vettese @wetalkofdreamsSources:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjV7NDAUW7shttps://www.amazon.com/Hangman-Life-Crimes-Gerard-Schaefer/dp/1987902165https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_John_Schaeferhttps://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Gerard_Schaeferhttps://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1346&dat=19780512&id=T1RNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qfoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6167,3669114&hl=enhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axY-2QEDlIQhttps://alookintotheworldofserialkillersandothermurders.wordpress.com/2015/08/25/gerard-john-schaefer-a-kiiller-cop-doing-doubles/https://books.google.com/books?id=7K4amzFbIrYC&pg=PA50&lpg=PA50&dq=St.+Thomas+Aquinas+High+School+Gerard+Schaefer&source=bl&ots=xYZXzXo-11&sig=IrrVelIDattEMG4MVndcjeeU5nw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi11_j5yuPbAhWTAHwKHaoSBKI4ChDoAQhDMAg#v=onepage&q=St.%20Thomas%20Aquinas%20High%20School%20Gerard%20Schaefer&f=falsehttps://books.google.com/books?id=fmfxBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA137#v=onepage&q&f=falsehttps://web.archive.org/web/20100710153845/http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ruth.buddell/schaefer.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

18 Mars 20201h 1min

A huge thank you to Cynthia Boatright Raleigh for sending us the script for this week's episode. Her excellent research and writing skills make for an excellent story.On December 2, 1954, Mary Holland was found dead on the floor of her liquor store bathroom. Her hands were tied behind her back and a .38 caliber bullet in her skull.Three weeks later Wesley Kerr was found dead at the gas station where he worked. Hands tied behind his back and with a gunshot wound to the head. It seemed Evansville, Indiana had a killer on the loose. Join Cam and Jen, with the help of Cynthia Boatright Raleigh, as they discuss Leslie "Mad Dog" Irvin: Indiana Serial KillerThank you to Podcorn for sponsoring this episode. With Podcorn you can find the right brand sponsorships for your podcast. Go to Podcorn.com and sign up today.Listener Discretion by Edward OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6wProducer and sound editing: Nico Vettese wetalkofdreams.comOriginal music by Nico Vettese @wetalkofdreamsSources:• Browning Genealogical Database: http://browning.evpl.org/• Courier & Press photo archive: http://digital.evpl.org/cdm/landingpage/collection/p16848coll1• Courtlistener.com: https://www.courtlistener.com/?q=Irvin+v.+Dowd• Henderson Kentucky History: http://hendersonkyhistory.com/DuncanMurders.htm• Murderpedia.org: http://www.murderpedia.org/male.I/i/irvin-leslie.htm• Newspapers.com: Evansville Courier-Press 4/13/55; Harrisburg Daily Register 4/14/55; Franklin Star 1/23/56; Nashville Banner 4/14/55; St. Louis Globe-Democrat 2/10/56; Danville Bee 4/14/55; Princeton Herald 1/25/56; Kokomo Tribune 1/19/56; Terre Haute Star 6/14/62. • Princeton Daily Clarion: Newspapers from April 11, 1955-January 29, 1956. • Public vital records: Census records, death certificates• WNIN television special “Top 9 Series – Crime”: https://video.wnin.org/video/wnins-top-9-crimes/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

11 Mars 20201h 25min