213. Trolling for Murder: The Killings of Billy and Billie Jean

213. Trolling for Murder: The Killings of Billy and Billie Jean

It is January 31, 2012, and a family member decides to drop by the home of 24-year-old Billie Jean Hayworth and her fiance 35-year-old Bill Payne. The couple, who shared a 6-month-old son, had recently gotten engaged and we were excited for the future. A family member who regularly stopped by to check in on the young family was always greeted by the baby crawling around. This time it was different. After not being invited into the home, she entered through the unlocked door. She was immediately thrown off since there was not the usual hustle and bustle of the morning. Instead, pure silence. The women called out to them but no one responded. As she made his way through the hallway, she looked into the bedroom and saw Bill Payne lifeless on the bed. Then he came upon Billie Jean on the floor, covered in blood, with her still clutching to her baby boy. The baby had her mother’s blood on him but seemed to be unharmed. The woman makes a frantic call to 911 in shock from what she has witnessed and tries to soothe the baby. Police head to the location nervous about what they will discover. This is not the norm in this quiet Tennessee town of Mountain City, population 2415. Agent Scott Lott from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation reports to the scene. He determines Bill Payne had a gunshot wound to the face and his throat had been slit. Billie Jean had a gunshot wound to the head as well. The house did not seem to be in disarray indicating this was not a burglary gone wrong. What it did indicate was that someone wanted both of them dead and made sure to make that happen. The murders looked clean, as in a hit. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Trolling for Murder: The Killing of Billy and Billie Jean.’Listener Discretion courtesy of @octoberpodVHSMusic is courtesy of our executive producer @wetalkofdreamsSources:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m40-nbJzKLEhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/social-media-feud-led-murder-young-tennessee-couple/story?id=34346840https://lawandcrime.com/crime/matriarch-of-tennessee-family-convicted-of-infamous-facebook-murders-pleads-guilty-after-being-granted-new-trial/https://www.wjhl.com/news/local/mother-daughter-convicted-in-facebook-murders-case-to-appear-in-court-tuesday/https://www.timesnews.net/one-of-three-facebook-murder-convictions-overturned-mother-granted-new-trial/article_4aea9524-0618-11ec-a093-8b71991a842d.htmlhttps://www.thetomahawk.com/news/article_495b5c6e-83ce-541f-92b3-26b9a209e73c.htmlhttps://law.justia.com/cases/tennessee/court-of-criminal-appeals/2019/e2015-02261-cca-r3-cd.htmlhttps://lawandcrime.com/crime/matriarch-of-tennessee-family-convicted-of-infamous-facebook-murders-pleads-guilty-after-being-granted-n/ew-trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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69. The Ohio Sniper: When Hunters Become The Hunted

69. The Ohio Sniper: When Hunters Become The Hunted

It is April 1, 1989 and 35 year old Donald Welling was enjoying what he often did on weekend mornings which was taking a jog on the pretty back roads of Tuscarawas County. The peaceful moments of enjoying his run were shattered as a long shot rang out. The rifle bullet struck the middle of his heart killing him instantly. It was just 19 months later when on November 10, 1990, when 21 year old Jamie Paxton decided to go out and do some bow hunting with his crossbow. He found a nice area off state route 9, parked his car and got out to take a walk and get a look around. He left his weapon in the car. As Jamie was strolling along, lost in thought, he didn’t realize a man had pulled up and parked near his car. Again, shots rang out. Jamie fell to the ground after being struck three times from a rifle. The gunman would leave no evidence, leave no witnesses and was just getting started.Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss The Ohio Sniper: When Hunters Become The Hunted . As always, our listener discretion is provided by the fabu Edward October from @octoberpodVHS.We could never edit this or sound decent without the hard work of Nico from @wetalkofdreams who does both for us. Make sure to like and subscribe to Our True Crime Podcast wherever you listen to your podcasts. We can be reached on Instagram and Facebook at ourtruecrimepodcast or on twitter at @ourtruecrimepod. You can email us at ourtruecrimepodcast@gmail.com If you really like the show, make sure to check out our Patreon at Our True-Crime Podcast to gain access to even more OTCP stuff. Sources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_DillonThe Discovery Channel’s The FBI Files episode "Human Prey," S1, E3, Air date: 1998.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-snipers-mind/https://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/22/killer-dillon-who-hunted-outdoorsmen-is-dead.htmlhttps://wickedwe.com/thomas-dillon/Hunter of Humans: The True Story of Thomas Lee Dillon by David LohrMan who'd aim at anything is finally the law's target By David Knox, Jolene Limbacher and Kim McMahan: Akron-Beacon Journal. January 24, 1993. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

15 Jan 202055min

68 The Ultimate Betrayal of Trust: The Murder of Tia Sharp

68 The Ultimate Betrayal of Trust: The Murder of Tia Sharp

***Warning*** This episode deals with sexual abuse of a child. In the summer of 2012, London was abuzz with excitement of being the host to the Olympic games. Close to 11K athletes from over 200 countries flooded the city for what is considered the most important sports competition. Over 900 million people globally watched the event. But in early August,hundreds of people in London turned their attention away from the games to a town just an hour away from the games to focus on the disappearance of a 12 year old girl Newspapers reported that Tia Sharp had been staying the weekend with her grandparents. On Friday August 3, about midday, she left their house in New Addington to go to the shops to buy flip flops in Croydon, about 4 miles away. Within 36 hours of Tia disappearance, over 200 people in the neighborhood would be out searching. Celebrities would tweet info to help spread information in hopes of finding the newly turned 12 year old. By August 10, London will mourn the sexually motivated murder of young, confident, happy child.Join Cam & Jen as we discuss The Ultimate Betrayal of Trust: The Murder of Tia SharpListener Discretion by Edward October of OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6wMusic, Sound and Editing by our Producer Nico Vertesse at wetalkofdreams.comSources:https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/uk-news/harrowing-story-how-tia-sharp-13574607https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/716436/the-final-images-of-tia-sharp/https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1061508752https://www.amazon.com/Tia-Sharp-Betrayal-Step-Grandfather-Murdered-ebook/dp/B00ER83NJQ/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=tia+sharp&qid=1578513987&sr=8-2https://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/10404355.tia-sharp-murder-trial-jury-told-stuart-hazell-held-dead-girls-body-down-in-sexual-pose/https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/728425/my-brother-the-monster/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or49aoERz3c&t=1864shttps://www.caughtoncamera.net/news/how-many-cctv-cameras-in-london/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9469384/Tia-Sharp-police-apologise-for-failures-in-search-of-house-where-body-was-found.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghbHNW5Ek74https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9470376/Tia-Sharp-timeline-of-her-disappearance.htmlhttps://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/the-murder-of-tia-sharp Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

8 Jan 20201h 3min

.22 Caliber Killer: Joseph Christopher (Day 12) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

.22 Caliber Killer: Joseph Christopher (Day 12) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Just 3 years after the Son of Sam murders had terrorized New York, Buffalo was hit with the same kind of surprise attack killer, but this murderer preferred killing black men.With 3 different MOs, and 2 different monikers, FBI profiler John Douglas was brought in.Come join Jen & Cam as we discuss the .22 Caliber KillerListener Discretion by the utterly amazing Edward October @octoberpodvhsMusic and audio stylings by our Producer Nico @wetalkofdreams. We would be lost without him. Really.Sources:https://www.nytimes.com/1981/05/16/nyregion/buffalo-suspect-s-friends-are-mystified.html?pagewanted=allhttps://the-line-up.com/catherine-pelonero-interviewhttps://www.crimetraveller.org/2017/11/absolute-madness-book-review-author-interview/https://killer.cloud/serial-killers/show/96/joseph-christopherhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0574705/?ref_=ttep_ep18https://murderpedia.org/male.C/c/christopher-joseph.htmhttps://www.criminallyintrigued.com/blog/2018/3/24/the-killer-with-two-names-joseph-christopherhttps://www.wgrz.com/article/news/crime/new-book-about-wny-22-caliber-killer/315287587 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

24 Dec 201938min

Easter Sunday Massacre 12 Nightmares Before Christmas (Day 11)

Easter Sunday Massacre 12 Nightmares Before Christmas (Day 11)

On Easter Sunday, families gather to celebrate with family and friends. They enjoy the traditional ham dinner with all the trimmings and attend service to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus. It is a time to be together with those you love and cherish but for James Ruppert, it was something much different. As we have learned, often things look different on the outside than on the inside and sometimes they are not at all what they seemed. Join Jen and Cam on day 11 of the 12 Nightmares Before Christmas as we discuss Easter Sunday Massacre. Always angelic Edward OctoberpodVHS @octoberpodVHS did that swell listener discretion at the top of the show. All music and editing is brought to you by our naughty but nice Nico from @wetalkofdreams.Sources:https://www.americanhauntingsink.com/easterhttps://www.journal-news.com/news/parole-for-james-ruppert-easter-mass-murder/yjmZrzIYnNUZ2YHFbN90bL/https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/james-ruppert-easter-sunday-massacre-hamilton-woman-copes-with-living-in-a-murder-househttps://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/ruppert-james.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

23 Dec 201934min

South African Killer Cannibal Stewart Wilken AKA Boetie Boer (Day 10) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

South African Killer Cannibal Stewart Wilken AKA Boetie Boer (Day 10) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Most serial killers have a certain type of victim. Ted Bundy liked to kill women with long, straight, dark hair. John Wayne Gacy liked young men between the ages fo 16 and 19. Gary Rdgeway preferred female sex workers and young runaways.Stewart Wilken was different. He killed female sex workers and young boys living on the street.Come join Jen and Cam as they talk about one of South Africa's serial killer and what he liked to call the 'jellybean effect'Edward October @octoberpodvhs lends his fabulous voice to out listener discretionNico @wetalkofdreams is our lovely producer and handles all the music, sound and editing.Sources;http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/north-harbour-news/696177/Story-of-a-serial-killerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Wilkenhttps://books.google.com/books?id=s7cEAQAAIAAJhttps://books.google.com/books?id=oN_QKBYvSloC&pg=PA344https://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/wilken-stewart.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

22 Dec 201936min

The Broomstick Killer (Day 9)-12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Broomstick Killer (Day 9)-12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On August 6, 1966, Kenneth McDuff and Roy Dale Green spent the day working for Kenneth’s dad pouring concrete. When they finished for the day they decided to go out and drive around and ‘look for a girl.’ Sadly they would come upon three teens and commit an unthinkable act. At 10 pm that night, 17-year-old Robert Brand, 16-year-old Edna Louise Sullivan who was Robert’s GF, and Robert’s 15-year-old cousin Mark Dunman just hanging out in Everman, Texas when McDuff noticed Edna Sullivan. He pulls up alongside the teens, pulls a .38 Colt revolver and ordered them to get into the trunk of their car. Join Jen and Cam on this day 9 of 12 Nightmares Before Christmas as we discuss The Broomstick Killer.Seasonal Listener Discretion is by the Magical Edward OctoberpodVHS @octoberpodVHS.All music/ editing is courtesy of our Christmas Angel, Nico from @wetalkofdreams.Sources:https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/free-to-kill-2/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuffhttps://www.amazon.com/Bad-Boy-Kenneth-Notorious-History/dp/0312981252https://www.mariomadridlawfirm.com/kenneth-mcduff-the-serial-killer-sentenced-to-death-and-then-released-on-parole/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

21 Dec 201935min

The Boozing Barber: Gilbert Paul Jordan (Day 8) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Boozing Barber: Gilbert Paul Jordan (Day 8) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

We've talked about hundreds of killers and the weapons they use. Guns, knives, bombs, ligatures. This list goes on. Well, today we add a new method of murder.Gilbert Paul Gilbert's MO was to force alcohol down women's throats.Join Cam & Jen as they discuss Canada's Boozing Barber: Gilbert Paul JordanListener discretion by OTCPs bestie Edward Ocotber @octoberpodvhsMusic and audio Stylings by OTCPs Producer, St Nico, Patron Saint of SoundSources:https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/the-history-of-gilbert-paul-jordanhttp://mysteryrepeatsitself.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-boozing-barber-gilbert-paul-jordan.htmlhttp://dyingwords.net/gilbert-paul-jordan-the-boozing-barber-serial-killer/http://www.firstnationsdrum.com/2009/04/gilbert-paul-jordan-the-boozing-barber/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Paul_Jordanhttps://murderpedia.org/male.J/j/jordan-gilbert-paul.htmhttps://killer.cloud/serial-killers/show/166/gilbert-paul-jordan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Dec 201933min

Dirty Diana: When A Mom Murders (Day 7) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Dirty Diana: When A Mom Murders (Day 7) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Many women dream of becoming mothers and are so excited when they finally get to welcome a little bundle of joy into this world. Often couples struggle to conceive and spend lots of money trying to make their dreams of becoming parents a reality. For one mother, conceiving a child was the easy part but seeing them live past their fourth birthday was another matter. It's day 7 of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas and Jen and Cam will discuss Dirty Diana on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.Special seasonal listener discretion by the ever so merriful Edward October from @octoberpodvhs.The jazzy music and the amazing editing is all done by our Christmas miracle, Nico @wetalkofdreams.Sources:https://www.gcpolice.org/about-gcpd/history/famous-cases/diana-lumbrera-murdershttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-01-06-mn-10615-story.htmlhttps://www.texastribune.org/library/data/texas-prisons/inmates/diana-l-lumbrera/1146416/https://murderpedia.org/female.L/l/lumbrera-diana.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

19 Dec 201931min

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