213. Trolling for Murder: The Killings of Billy and Billie Jean

213. Trolling for Murder: The Killings of Billy and Billie Jean

It is January 31, 2012, and a family member decides to drop by the home of 24-year-old Billie Jean Hayworth and her fiance 35-year-old Bill Payne. The couple, who shared a 6-month-old son, had recently gotten engaged and we were excited for the future. A family member who regularly stopped by to check in on the young family was always greeted by the baby crawling around. This time it was different. After not being invited into the home, she entered through the unlocked door. She was immediately thrown off since there was not the usual hustle and bustle of the morning. Instead, pure silence. The women called out to them but no one responded. As she made his way through the hallway, she looked into the bedroom and saw Bill Payne lifeless on the bed. Then he came upon Billie Jean on the floor, covered in blood, with her still clutching to her baby boy. The baby had her mother’s blood on him but seemed to be unharmed. The woman makes a frantic call to 911 in shock from what she has witnessed and tries to soothe the baby. Police head to the location nervous about what they will discover. This is not the norm in this quiet Tennessee town of Mountain City, population 2415. Agent Scott Lott from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation reports to the scene. He determines Bill Payne had a gunshot wound to the face and his throat had been slit. Billie Jean had a gunshot wound to the head as well. The house did not seem to be in disarray indicating this was not a burglary gone wrong. What it did indicate was that someone wanted both of them dead and made sure to make that happen. The murders looked clean, as in a hit. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Trolling for Murder: The Killing of Billy and Billie Jean.’Listener Discretion courtesy of @octoberpodVHSMusic is courtesy of our executive producer @wetalkofdreamsSources:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m40-nbJzKLEhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/social-media-feud-led-murder-young-tennessee-couple/story?id=34346840https://lawandcrime.com/crime/matriarch-of-tennessee-family-convicted-of-infamous-facebook-murders-pleads-guilty-after-being-granted-new-trial/https://www.wjhl.com/news/local/mother-daughter-convicted-in-facebook-murders-case-to-appear-in-court-tuesday/https://www.timesnews.net/one-of-three-facebook-murder-convictions-overturned-mother-granted-new-trial/article_4aea9524-0618-11ec-a093-8b71991a842d.htmlhttps://www.thetomahawk.com/news/article_495b5c6e-83ce-541f-92b3-26b9a209e73c.htmlhttps://law.justia.com/cases/tennessee/court-of-criminal-appeals/2019/e2015-02261-cca-r3-cd.htmlhttps://lawandcrime.com/crime/matriarch-of-tennessee-family-convicted-of-infamous-facebook-murders-pleads-guilty-after-being-granted-n/ew-trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The XBox Murders (Day 6) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The XBox Murders (Day 6) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

These senseless murders were so violent, the court has barred the crime scene photos from ever being seen outside the courtroom.Join Jen and Cam as the discuss the events that led upto The XBox Murders.Listener Discretion by Edward October @octoberpodvhsMusic and audio styling my Nico @wetalkofdreamsResearch and writer for this episode is Lana McCallSourceshttps://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/the-killer-inside/Content?oid=2274001https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-2004-08-11-0408110108-story.htmlhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/firings-in-xbox-murders-aftermath/https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/the-real-story-with-maria-elena-salinas/full-episodes/the-deltona-massacrehttps://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/xbox-murders-6-fla-slain-game-article-1.590944http://onlinedocketssc.flcourts.org/DocketResults/CaseByYear?CaseNumber=1285&CaseYear=2017https://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20180810/14-years Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

18 Dec 201937min

Dr. Who? The Tall Tale of Jean-Claude Romand (Day 5) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Dr. Who? The Tall Tale of Jean-Claude Romand (Day 5) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

How many times in your head have you thought about being someone? Like a famous actress? An award winning author? A huge sports star? Today’s story is just that. It reads like a dramatic movie plot featuring Leo DiCaprio as the handsome young doctor who worked hard in the healthcare field, saving lives by the day and discovering the cure for cancer at night. The difference is that Jean-Claude Romand is no Leo and well, actually he is not a lot of things and that is where all the trouble begins.Join Jen and Cam on day 5 of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas as we discuss the crazy tale of Dr. Who? on Our True Crime Podcast. Seasonal Listener Discretion is by the Magical Edward OctoberpodVHS @octoberpodVHS.All music/ editing is courtesy of our Christmas Angel, Nico from @wetalkofdreams.Sources: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48790276https://www.france24.com/en/20190628-notorious-french-doctor-who-killed-family-released-abbeyhttps://www.newser.com/story/277129/free-after-26-years-guy-who-killed-wife-kids-parents.htmlhttps://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/notorious-french-medical-impostor-and-killer-to-be-freed-lawyer-11479030 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Dec 201942min

The Revenge Murders of Archie McCafferty  (Day 4 ) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Revenge Murders of Archie McCafferty (Day 4 ) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

After his infant son is accidentally killed, Archie McCafferty's already out of control anger starts spiraling.. Upon heatkng a voice telling him how he can bring his son back, Archie goes on a murder spree.Join Cam & Jen as they discuss The Revenge Murders of Archie McCafferty.Listener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodvhsMusic and audio stylings by Nico @wetalkofdreamsSourceshttps://www.smh.com.au/national/mad-dog-mccafferty-slashes-wife-holds-child-at-knifepoint-20040411-gdippe.htmlhttps://www.sleuthsayers.org/2012/12/crime-history-archibald-mccafferty.htmlhttps://www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/serial-killer-s-past-life-comes-to-light-after-he-offends-once-more-1-1278780https://www.amazon.com/Australias-Serial-Killers-Paul-Kidd-ebook/dp/B005GYL1XUhttps://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/mccafferty-archibald.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

16 Dec 201958min

The Wrath of Orion (Day 3) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Wrath of Orion (Day 3) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

A local constable had pulled over to take a break and do some paperwork and while he was parked, a woman comes running up to him. She was in a panic and barely able to get her words out. She kept saying they are dead, they are all dead. She begged the officer to come with her. They arrive to a house and find a scene right out of a movie. While barely clinging to life, a woman who had been stabbed and would later be identified as 73 year old Virginia Critchley, was able to give some information about who carried out this massacre. She whispered, 'two boys.’ It was a clue but how these two boys were connected would take awhile to figure out and leave several devastated. Join Jen and Cam today as we discuss The Wrath of Orion, the third day in The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas,Holiday Listener Discretion is by the Very Merry Edward OctoberpodVHS @octoberpodVHS.The music you are hearing is by Santa’s favorite, Nico from @wetalkofdreams.Sources:https://www.chathamdailynews.ca/news/local-news/retired-chatham-kent-opp-detective-featured-in-cbc-cop-dramawww.rds.oeb.ca › HPECMWebDrawer › Record › File › documenthttps://lfpress.com/news/local-news/chatham-triple-murderer-jason-shawn-cofell-moves-closer-to-full-parole?fbclid=IwAR1Eedkams8iidFTh2vDPp8jydIV5u8tx4yaMYkG97TTZiV1Wp0GajGEzdw Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

15 Dec 201951min

The Notorious D.I.C.K.  (Day 2)  12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Notorious D.I.C.K. (Day 2) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The trail of Evelyn Dick is said.to be one of the most sensationalized events in Canada's criminal history. A children song on the playground,a la Lizzie Borden, have been sung for decades. Plays, Songs and movies have been written about the beautiful woman who was sentenced to be hung for the murder and dismemberment of her husband.Join Cam and Jen as they discuss The Nortorious D.I.C.KListener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodvhsMusic and audio stylings by Nico @wetalkofdreamsSources:https://www.thespec.com/news-story/6436765-the-strange-and-compelling-story-of-evelyn-dick/https://www.thespec.com/news-story/6392231-true-crime-the-dark-and-incredible-mystery-of-evelyn-dick/https://www.shekillslit.com/2018/09/24/how-could-you-mrs-dick/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNWUaEN9Ty8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OOZPZkXF9E&t=154s Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

14 Dec 201945min

The Torturous Murder of Kelly Anne Bates (Day 1) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Torturous Murder of Kelly Anne Bates (Day 1) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Warning: This episode contains extreme domestic violence. In 1993, Kelly-Anne Bates was just an English teenager who at 14 years old was babysitting for friends when she met a man named James Smith. James, at age 46, was 32 years older than Kelly and he set his sights on her and immediately began grooming her. Kelly, young and naive, had no idea about his previous abusive relationships and fell for him quickly. Kelly worked hard to keep the relationship a secret from her parents, Tommy and Margaret Bates, whom she knew would not be happy and managed to do so for two years. Join Jen and Cam as we begin Day 1 of 12 Nightmares before Christmas and discuss the murder of Kelly Anne Bates.That special Holiday Listener Discretion is by the Holly Jolly Edward OctoberpodVHS @octoberpodVHS.Those fabulous melodious melodies are by none other than our favorite elf, Nico from @wetalkofdreams.Sources: https://allthatsinteresting.com/kelly-anne-bates-james-patterson-smithhttps://www.ranker.com/g00/list/kelly-anne-bates-facts/amandasedlakhevener?i10c.ua=1&i10c.encReferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8%3d&i10c.dv=16https://abuse.wikia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kelly_Anne_Bateshttp://www.manchestersfinest.com/articles/manchesters-vilest-murder-kelly-anne-bates/https://www.themurdertriallive.co.uk/post/murder-of-kelly-anne-bates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

13 Dec 201931min

67. The Thurston High School Shooting

67. The Thurston High School Shooting

May 21, 1998, 15 year old Kip Kinkel murders his parents. The next morning he walked into Thurston High School in Springfield, Oregon, killing Ben Walker and Mikael Nickolauson, both 17, in cold blood. He then opens fire in the cafeteria wounding 25 people.Please join Jen and Cam as we discuss what events led up to this horrible event.Listener discretion by the amaingly talented Mr Edward October of Octoberpod VHS https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6wProducer and Patron Saint of Audio and Sound Nico of WeTalkOfDreams.comResearched and written by the talented Lana McCallSourceshttp://bit.ly/2mAo8yr State V Kinkelhttp://bit.ly/2m8HH0Q Reno Gazette Nov 10. 99http://bit.ly/2m8K97y Corvalllis May 26 98http://bit.ly/2nyrQc9 San Fran Examiner May 26 98http://bit.ly/2o6yjvf Rolling Stonehttps://nyti.ms/2mAddVv NYThttp://bit.ly/2nooLvi newsweekhttps://nyti.ms/2o3TPRb NYTIhttp://bit.ly/2nnzqGD Oregonhttp://bit.ly/2nDQlVm Theresahttps://wapo.st/2mxQiKs wash posthttp://bit.ly/2mpy5iq Chicago Tribunehttps://cbsn.ws/2mrcgix cbs https://to.pbs.org/2mD8nHn HOMEhttps://to.pbs.org/2mC7kqY confession transc.https://to.pbs.org/2nxOXn2 Kip documentshttps://to.pbs.org/2lUYVP0 Trialhttps://to.pbs.org/2nokAQ2 chronologyhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-may-23-me-40137-story.html%3f_amp=truehttps://tdn.com/news/state-and-regional/agreement-ends-last-claim-from-thurston-shooting/article_2060ab82-7ac7-54c3-ad32-70a47598ed8a.htmlhttps://kcby.com/news/local/website-drowning-victim-taken-off-life-support-11-13-2015-185627293https://books.google.com/books?id=Ozse_FSOXtMC&pg=PT43&lpg=PT43&dq=teresa+miltonberger&source=bl&ots=Fv3lsz6UZN&sig=ACfU3U13LOmKmOO6lC3_nPN0wABAGRjEOQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZ7t-03fbkAhWDJzQIHZlKAd84ChDoATAGegQIChAB#v=onepage&q=teresa%20miltonberger&f=falsehttps://kval.com/archive/murderer-kinkel-wants-a-jury-to-find-him-guilty-but-insane-11-12-2015 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

11 Dec 20191h 26min

66. The Slayer's Book of Death

66. The Slayer's Book of Death

On July 29, 1993, law enforcement authorities were alerted to a crime scene where they found two bodies in a field near Tellico, in Ellis County, Texas. The first body discovered was that of a nude decapitated girl whose hands were also missing. It looked like she had been shot in the back as well. Her body was badly mutilated.While officers were looking around for the rest of her missing parts, they discovered another body of a boy. It looked like he had been shot but unlike the girl, his body was intact. The boy had a wallet in his pants and a library card let authorities know his name James Bryan King. The two teens were brutally murdered by a suspect who was supposed to be their friend. This friend, however, had more than a few secrets and obsessions.Join Jen and Cam on today's episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "The Slayer's Book of Death." LD by Edward October from @octoberpodVHSOriginal music and all editing by Nico @wetalkofdreamsSources: https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Convicted-murderer-Jason-Massey-executed-2054935.phphttps://cowtowncrime.com/2018/03/26/book-of-death-diary-of-wannabe-serial-killer/https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/2019/11/28/jason-massey-cherub-faced-killer/https://www.fijichannel.com/21079.htmlhttp://www.shotsmag.co.uk/feature_view.aspx?FEATURE_ID=133https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Massey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

4 Dec 201944min

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