#418 - The State of Debate (w/ Mike Pesca)
The Fifth Column25 Aug 2023

#418 - The State of Debate (w/ Mike Pesca)

* Best mugshots of all time (Winner: 70s Larry King)* Who won the dumb debate* No, the agenda is a hoax* Nikki…pretty, pretty, pretty good, actually* “Let’s not look backwards”* One of the most deranged policy suggestions…* The debate over Trump prosecutions* Did Trump sound sane compared to Tucker?* What happened to Pesca’s podcast “Not Even Mad” podcast?* It’s really hard to make a podcast where everyone disagrees * Is the New York Times getting a bit more sensible?* Blurring the lines between activism and journalism This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribe

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025 w/ Josh Zepps "Wild Speculation on Tulsa, Terrorism and Denzel" - The Fifth Column

025 w/ Josh Zepps "Wild Speculation on Tulsa, Terrorism and Denzel" - The Fifth Column

The triumvirate has much to discuss after a weekend disrupted by terror attacks in several states and yet another high profile police shooting. Media speculation, double standards and misestimation of risk abound. Also... Denzel Washington. Josh Zepps, host of We The People Live stops by to help get things sorted. (http://www.wtplive.com) See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribe

21 Sep 20161h 17min

024 "A Deplorable Basket of Aleppo, Hacked Email and Conspiracy Theories" - The Fifth Column

024 "A Deplorable Basket of Aleppo, Hacked Email and Conspiracy Theories" - The Fifth Column

We had to MacGyver the hell out of this weeks dispatch. It's almost as if someone was trying to stop us... (Just asking questions here). Aleppo, Baskets of 'Deplorables', More Hacked Emails, Hillary's Flu-Ghazi... or is it a Trumpian Putanist plot (JUST ASKING QUESTIONS)... Excuse the less then amazing audio. Recorded via Skype from three different cities over internet connection and microphones of variable quality. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribe

15 Sep 20161h 13min

023 w/ Andrew Kirell "Trump's Mexican Day trip, Hillary's Alt-Right Syndrome" - The Fifth Column

023 w/ Andrew Kirell "Trump's Mexican Day trip, Hillary's Alt-Right Syndrome" - The Fifth Column

Colin Kaepernick rides the pine (which makes sense on many levels). Donald Trump visits Mexico. Hillary Clinton squares off with the AltRight. A few things remain unclear: Will our heroes ever get around to the oft promised discussion of 'private prisons'? Will Welch learn to properly operate the clock in the studio? Will Mexico pay for the wall? Will Moynihan finally learn how to 'Dab'? Andrew Kirell of the Daily Beast sits in for the hour. "What a Time to Be Alive" is an above average album, "Views" was disappointing. If you've got a problem with the cover art on Young Thug's latest project, keep it to yourself. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribe

1 Sep 20161h 13min

022 w/ Buck Sexton "NSA Hacks, The ISIS Blame Game" - The Fifth Column

022 w/ Buck Sexton "NSA Hacks, The ISIS Blame Game" - The Fifth Column

When Buck Sexton sits in for the hour there's a good chance the conversation will turn to foreign policy. As it turns out, that's exactly what happened and despited promises to the contrary, it pretty much stayed there. We did manage to establish a new (as in "first ever" and "only") Official Beer of the Fifth Column, so that's something. Other highlights: It's Moynihan's Birthday... Pretty sure Matt is drunk... and Kmele managed to pretzel Paul Krugman, Isis, Obama Care and the War in Iraq into a single metaphor -- fair chance he's drunk too. Special thanks to Hard Knocks Brewing for the evenings libations. Hard Knocks Brewing, The Official Beer of the Fifth Column Podcast. hardknocksbrewing.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribe

25 Aug 20161h 7min

021 w/ Michael Malice "The Best-Worst Case for Trump/Hillary, Charter Schools are Super Racist" - The Fifth Column

021 w/ Michael Malice "The Best-Worst Case for Trump/Hillary, Charter Schools are Super Racist" - The Fifth Column

Moynihan is off this week, appears he had obligations related to something he's describing as "his real job". We don't know what that's supposed to mean but it sounds illegal. Author and Observer columnist Michael Malice fills the empty chair for am hour and change, shouts things into the mic and generally enriches our regular rhetorical intercourse. Up for discussion this week: Gary Johnson's diminishing (but not completely exhausted) prospects for getting into the presidential debates. Matt Welch tell's a story that could get people locked up and/or deported. Charter schools are super racists, duh. That revenge porn of you, it may not be so bad after all. And the best possible (indirect) arguments FOR Trump/Hillary. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribe

18 Aug 20161h 14min

020 "Olympic Twerking, Obama's Drone War Playbook, The Clinton Foundation, Ferguson: Two Years Later" - The Fifth Column

020 "Olympic Twerking, Obama's Drone War Playbook, The Clinton Foundation, Ferguson: Two Years Later" - The Fifth Column

Episode 20: The most discursive and 'intrupty' installment to date, but never worry, they always stick that landing (that's an Olympics reference). This Week: - Obligatory Olympics Banter- Malia Obama twerks and tokes at Lalapalooza- Gary Johnson and Jill Stein, Lose in Court, But Kinda Win, Maybe...- Clinton and Trump Dazzle the American Electorate With More Email Scandals, Assassination Plots and the Appearance of Generalized Political Corruption- The Justice Department is Unimpressed with the Baltimore City Police Department- The White House FINALLY Releases It's Drone War 'Playbook'- Where else can you get all that in sixty mins? You're welcome. The noble, just and righteous crusade to replace Olympic Badminton with Olympic Twerking starts here.Moynihan, Welch and Foster discuss (and bravely lead the charge)... See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribe

11 Aug 20161h 5min

019 "How to Survive a Nuclear Holocaust, Welch-splaining Nato, Kmele's BLM Dust Up " - The Fifth Column

019 "How to Survive a Nuclear Holocaust, Welch-splaining Nato, Kmele's BLM Dust Up " - The Fifth Column

The Conventions are over, Welch, Moynihan and Foster are back in Gotham and it feels like Autumn in August. Still, Trump related anxieties have managed to reach new levels of 'OH-MY-GOD'; will his ascension to the presidency result in a nuclear conflict, the dismemberment of NATO, Armageddon, or garden variety disappointment & dishonesty? What's so great about NATO? And what's this about a contingent of Black Lives Matter protestors moving into the park adjacent to Kmele's apartment? Welch, Moynihan and Foster discuss... See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribe

4 Aug 20161h 10min

018 "The DNC Takes Philly , Ted Cruz's Dad Takes Grassy Knoll" - The Fifth Column (Updated)

018 "The DNC Takes Philly , Ted Cruz's Dad Takes Grassy Knoll" - The Fifth Column (Updated)

The Fifth Column's presidential convention coverage continues. Matt Welch phones in from the convention floor in Philadelphia, Moynihan convalesces in New York after a harrowing Republican convention and Foster dabs his brow compassionately with a damp cold cloth. On The Agenda This Week: The DNC has developed it's own 'damn email' problem; somehow it involves Russians and a pair of geriatric US presidential candidates. Trump and Sander's convention speeches are analyzed for an all together different sort of plagiarism; painting by numbers. Black Lives Matter Moms (pronounced "blim') take center stage at the DNC and thoughts on Europe's worsening terrorism problems. (Updated) See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribe

27 Juli 20161h 6min

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