Double Bill: “Former Head of Counter-terrorism Analysis, IDF” – with Shlomo Mofaz; and “Former Head of Intelligence, Mossad” – with Zohar Palti
SpyCast31 Okt 2023

Double Bill: “Former Head of Counter-terrorism Analysis, IDF” – with Shlomo Mofaz; and “Former Head of Intelligence, Mossad” – with Zohar Palti

Summary Col. (Ret.) Shlomo Mofaz (LinkedIn) and Col (Ret.) Zohar Palti (Wikipedia) join Andrew to discuss their respective careers in the Israeli Defense Forces and the Mossad. What You’ll Learn Intelligence Israel’s relationships with neighboring countries The role of intelligence within the Intifadas Israel and the Lebanon War Hezbollah, Hamas, and other groups that pose threats to Israeli security Reflections Pressure and power Dealing with constant threats And much, much more … Episode Notes This week on SpyCast, we bring you a Double Bill featuring Shlomo Mofaz and Zohar Palti. Shlomo Mofaz is the former Head of Counter-terrorism Analysis for the Israeli Defense forces, and currently serves as the director of the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center. Among positions within the IDF and the Ministry of Defense, Zohar Palti formerly served as the Head of Intelligence for the Mossad. This episode is the final installment of SpyCast’s month-long special series on Israeli intelligence. This series has coincided with the ongoing Israel-Hamas War. We hope that through these episodes we’ve provided listeners with a bit of clarity and background on the conflict and its major players. Quotes of the Week “When you're dealing with intelligence, mistakes are very problematic … People make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes, but you need to choose the best people that you can work with and you can count on to bring the information or the service that you need in real time.“ -Shlomo Mofaz. “They can't be the best over here in the Middle East right now that we can deal with any threat in a radius of 2000 kilometers without being, in a way, superpowering intelligence. We are not superpowering other issues. In intelligence, we are really, really good. And this is, first of all, to protect our family. And secondly, surviving over here in the region. We have to be the best.” -Zohar Palti. Resources SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* Former Senior Indian Intelligence Officer with R&AW Special Secretary Vappala Balachandran (2023) Irish Garda Intelligence Chief with Assistant Commissioner Michael McElgunn (2023) Israeli Military Intelligence with IDF Brig. General (Res.) Yossi Kuperwasser (2023) The Counterintelligence Chief with FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler (2023) *Beginner Resources* A Timeline of the Israel-Palestinian Conflict, E. Bubola, The New York Times (2023) [Timeline] The Middle East's cold war, explained, YouTube (2017) [10 min. video] What is an intifada?, A.V., The Economist (2017) DEEPER DIVE Books Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations, R. Bergman (Random House, 2018) Gideon's Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad, G. Thomas (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2015) 34 Days: Israel, Hezbollah, and the War in Lebanon, A. Harel & A. Issacharoff (St. Martin’s Press, 2008) Video The Green Prince (2014) Primary Sources A Strategic Assessment of the Hizballah War: Defeating the Iranian-Syrian Axis in Lebanon (2006) The PLO Weapons Ship from Iran (2002) Israeli Perspectives on the Gulf Crisis (1990) The Intifada in Judea and Samaria: A View From the Field (1990) Judea and Samaria: Behind the Uprising (1988) Hamas Covenant (1988) Israel’s “Peace for the Galilee” Operation in Lebanon – Some Initial Perspectives (1982) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of the United States and the Government of Israel on Strategic Cooperation (1981) *Wildcard Resource* Indiana “Dietrick” Jones?! Ever wanted to go on an architectural dig, intrigued by the prospect of finding an ancient artifact – or even treasure…grab your hat and bullwhip and book your dig for a day in Israel here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Journey of Two Extraordinary Women in Intel. & Security” – with Lisa Kaplan (Alethea, CEO) and Avril Eklund (GitHub, CSO)

The Journey of Two Extraordinary Women in Intel. & Security” – with Lisa Kaplan (Alethea, CEO) and Avril Eklund (GitHub, CSO)

I was really good at buying drugs, which is how I got recruited into narcotics. Apparently, I make a really good crackhead.” “Frankly, fact-checking doesn’t matter in today’s world.” Intrigued? You should be. Avril and Lisa are absolutely fascinating! Avril built an intelligence team for the Attorney General’s Office in Pennsylvania, from scratch. Her unit collected strategic intel on narcotics trends and went on to predict the methamphetamine trend before it even hit the Keystone State. Lisa was the Digital Director for Angus King of Maine, a Senator on the Select Committee on Intelligence, the Armed Services Committee, and the Energy & Natural Resources Committee. Hmmmm…do you think those committees might have digital information foreign adversaries might be interested in…Get the full skinny on Avril – CSO for Github - and Lisa – CEO of Alethea Group - in this week’s SpyCast. Because intel is regional too. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

22 Dec 20211h 2min

“Special Operations & Intelligence” – A Conversation with the President of SOF’s “Think-Do Tank”

“Special Operations & Intelligence” – A Conversation with the President of SOF’s “Think-Do Tank”

Post 9/11, special operations and intelligence worked together side-by-side, shoulder-to-shoulder and hand-in-glove (or any other heavily-hyphenated term you care to mention that connotates BFFness). What will happen with the relationship now, though, and in American history how have these two important components of national security related to each other? Enter the Joint Special Operations University (JSOU), located in Tampa, Florida, and more particularly their President Isaiah “Ike” Wilson, who sits down with Andrew for this week’s episode of #SpyCast. “I think, therefore I am” Nope. “I think, therefore I do” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

14 Dec 20211h 15min

My Global Career as a Female FBI Agent” – with Kathy Stearman

My Global Career as a Female FBI Agent” – with Kathy Stearman

Beijing. New Delhi. Kathmandu. “Hang on, I thought the title said FBI, not CIA?” Well, it did. Kathy Stearman was an FBI Legat who lived and worked in all of those capital cities. “Well, I’ve heard of the Ambassador and the Station Chief, but not the Legat?” Well, that’s why you need to listen to this week’s SpyCast! Kathy Stearman is a retired FBI Special Agent and author of It’s Not About the Gun: Lessons From my Global Career as a Female FBI Agent (I know the title sounds like Lance Armstrong’s It’s Not About the Bike, but Kathy is not a sociopath who will rip your heart out after you invest in her story: I promise). Kathy spent a large part of her career working Chinese counter-intelligence – including time in San Francisco and New York City (I hope the FBI has a generous rent allowance!) – and she speaks fluent Mandarin. BUY THE BOOK FROM OUR ONLINE INDEPENDENT BOOKSTORE: HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

7 Dec 20211h 4min

“The Birth of American Propaganda” – A Conversation on Manipulating the Masses with John Hamilton

“The Birth of American Propaganda” – A Conversation on Manipulating the Masses with John Hamilton

The Committee on Public Information (CPI) is the first and only Ministry of Propaganda the United States has ever had. It started one week after the United States entered World War I in April of 1917; in fact, there wasn't even conscription for some weeks, but the Committee on Public Information was created right away. Why? To explore this question, and to learn more about the CPI, Andrew sat down with journalist, professor and Vietnam veteran Jack Hamilton (yes, actually sat down, like face-to-face, eyeball-to-eyeball!). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

30 Nov 202157min

“The Recruiter: Part 2 of 2” – Modern Spycraft with Doug London (Part 2)

“The Recruiter: Part 2 of 2” – Modern Spycraft with Doug London (Part 2)

Doug London is thoughtful and reflective – but he doesn’t pull his punches and he candidly shares his analysis of the contemporary intelligence landscape. In this second part, Doug reflects on the path taken after 9/11, the CIA at the crossroads, and why human intelligence (HUMINT) will remain central to the vast and increasingly technologically sophisticated world of intelligence. Also, hear about a superstar counterintelligence operative Doug is currently running – although there is also a rumor, she might be playing the game for herself – listen to find out more… Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

23 Nov 202159min

“The Recruiter: Part 1 of 2” – Modern SpyCraft with Doug London

“The Recruiter: Part 1 of 2” – Modern SpyCraft with Doug London

This week’s guest believes that espionage is about the “human soul…[it’s] a very intimate profession…the relationship between a case officer and an agent and the need to really have…a profound insight window into their life and their souls.” Doug London may be accused of many things, but you can’t say he’s shallow. His book, The Recruiter, is based on a 34 year career and can be purchased from our online independent bookstore. Next week we’ll hear more about Doug’s career, his views on CIA at the cross-roads, the centrality of human intelligence to the intelligence business, despite profound technological change, as well what he calls the Lost Art of American Intelligence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

16 Nov 202158min

“The Happy Traitor” – A Conversation on George Blake with Biographer Simon Kuper

“The Happy Traitor” – A Conversation on George Blake with Biographer Simon Kuper

He was a Soviet agent who was “turned” by Karl Marx after reading Das Kapital – which led him to give up the important operations, a host of MI6 agents and a treasure trove of secret intelligence… George Blake was a courier in the Dutch resistance, an MI6 intelligence officer, a language student at Cambridge, a “Vice-Consul” in South Korea, a prisoner in North Korea, and a hero returning to Britain in 1953. He would escape from a British prison after getting caught and would live out the rest of his life as “The Happy Traitor” in Moscow before dying in 2020. What did author Simon Kuper think when he sat down to personally interview Blake before his death? Well, you’ll have to listen to find out. SpyCast listeners can win free copies of the book by entering here: https://bit.ly/3mW1YmL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

9 Nov 202152min

“Soviet Defectors: Revelations of Renegade Intelligence Officers” - with World Leading Expert Kevin Riehle

“Soviet Defectors: Revelations of Renegade Intelligence Officers” - with World Leading Expert Kevin Riehle

He has worked as a counterintelligence analyst at the FBI and the DIA. He speaks Russian. He was personally supervised by Robert Hanssen. He has an obsession with Soviet Defectors… “Freedom has many difficulties,” said JFK in his Berlin Speech, “and democracy is not perfect, but we have never had to put a wall up to keep our people in.” What was it like to leave that type of system, though, to come from behind the Iron Curtain and cross the East-West physical and ideological divide? Kevin Riehle has spent many years studying Soviet defectors and their motivations, and he is the author of Soviet Defectors: Revelations of Renegade Intelligence Officers, 1924-1954. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

9 Nov 20211h 16min

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