Double Bill: “Former Head of Counter-terrorism Analysis, IDF” – with Shlomo Mofaz; and “Former Head of Intelligence, Mossad” – with Zohar Palti
SpyCast31 Okt 2023

Double Bill: “Former Head of Counter-terrorism Analysis, IDF” – with Shlomo Mofaz; and “Former Head of Intelligence, Mossad” – with Zohar Palti

Summary Col. (Ret.) Shlomo Mofaz (LinkedIn) and Col (Ret.) Zohar Palti (Wikipedia) join Andrew to discuss their respective careers in the Israeli Defense Forces and the Mossad. What You’ll Learn Intelligence Israel’s relationships with neighboring countries The role of intelligence within the Intifadas Israel and the Lebanon War Hezbollah, Hamas, and other groups that pose threats to Israeli security Reflections Pressure and power Dealing with constant threats And much, much more … Episode Notes This week on SpyCast, we bring you a Double Bill featuring Shlomo Mofaz and Zohar Palti. Shlomo Mofaz is the former Head of Counter-terrorism Analysis for the Israeli Defense forces, and currently serves as the director of the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center. Among positions within the IDF and the Ministry of Defense, Zohar Palti formerly served as the Head of Intelligence for the Mossad. This episode is the final installment of SpyCast’s month-long special series on Israeli intelligence. This series has coincided with the ongoing Israel-Hamas War. We hope that through these episodes we’ve provided listeners with a bit of clarity and background on the conflict and its major players. Quotes of the Week “When you're dealing with intelligence, mistakes are very problematic … People make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes, but you need to choose the best people that you can work with and you can count on to bring the information or the service that you need in real time.“ -Shlomo Mofaz. “They can't be the best over here in the Middle East right now that we can deal with any threat in a radius of 2000 kilometers without being, in a way, superpowering intelligence. We are not superpowering other issues. In intelligence, we are really, really good. And this is, first of all, to protect our family. And secondly, surviving over here in the region. We have to be the best.” -Zohar Palti. Resources SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* Former Senior Indian Intelligence Officer with R&AW Special Secretary Vappala Balachandran (2023) Irish Garda Intelligence Chief with Assistant Commissioner Michael McElgunn (2023) Israeli Military Intelligence with IDF Brig. General (Res.) Yossi Kuperwasser (2023) The Counterintelligence Chief with FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler (2023) *Beginner Resources* A Timeline of the Israel-Palestinian Conflict, E. Bubola, The New York Times (2023) [Timeline] The Middle East's cold war, explained, YouTube (2017) [10 min. video] What is an intifada?, A.V., The Economist (2017) DEEPER DIVE Books Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations, R. Bergman (Random House, 2018) Gideon's Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad, G. Thomas (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2015) 34 Days: Israel, Hezbollah, and the War in Lebanon, A. Harel & A. Issacharoff (St. Martin’s Press, 2008) Video The Green Prince (2014) Primary Sources A Strategic Assessment of the Hizballah War: Defeating the Iranian-Syrian Axis in Lebanon (2006) The PLO Weapons Ship from Iran (2002) Israeli Perspectives on the Gulf Crisis (1990) The Intifada in Judea and Samaria: A View From the Field (1990) Judea and Samaria: Behind the Uprising (1988) Hamas Covenant (1988) Israel’s “Peace for the Galilee” Operation in Lebanon – Some Initial Perspectives (1982) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government of the United States and the Government of Israel on Strategic Cooperation (1981) *Wildcard Resource* Indiana “Dietrick” Jones?! Ever wanted to go on an architectural dig, intrigued by the prospect of finding an ancient artifact – or even treasure…grab your hat and bullwhip and book your dig for a day in Israel here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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