The Sunday Read: ‘Podcasters Took Up Her Sister’s Murder Investigation. Then They Turned on Her’
The Daily21 Jan 2024

The Sunday Read: ‘Podcasters Took Up Her Sister’s Murder Investigation. Then They Turned on Her’

Liz Flatt drove to Austin, Texas, mostly out of desperation. She had tried talking with the police. She had tried working with a former F.B.I. profiler who ran a nonprofit dedicated to solving unsolved murders. She had been interviewed by journalists and at least one podcaster. She had been featured on a Netflix documentary series about a man who falsely confessed to hundreds of killings.

Although she didn’t know it at the time, Flatt was at a crossroads in what she had taken to calling her journey, a path embarked on after a prayer-born decision five years earlier to try to find who killed her sister, Deborah Sue Williamson, or Debbie, in 1975. It was now 2021.

She had come to Austin for a conference, CrimeCon, which formed around the same time that Flatt began her quest, at a moment now seen as an inflection point in the long history of true crime, a genre as old as storytelling but one that adapts quickly to new technologies, from the printing press to social media. Flatt met a woman who would later put her in touch with two investigators who presented at the conference that year: George Jared and Jennifer Bucholtz. They were podcasters, but Jared was also a journalist and Bucholtz an adjunct professor of forensics and criminal justice at the for-profit American Military University. Their presentation was on another cold case, the murder of Rebekah Gould in 2004, whose killer they claimed to have helped find using a technique that has quickly become a signature of the changing landscape of true crime: crowdsourcing.

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Thursday, March 23, 2017

Thursday, March 23, 2017

Republicans control the government So why, as they head to a vote on the Republican health care plan, is the bill so disliked — and the party so divided? Plus: a view from the scene of yesterday’s deadly attacks in London. Guests: Jennifer Steinhauer, who is covering the health care debate for The New York Times; Katrin Bennhold, who lives in London and is reporting on the attack there. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2nXmcib. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

23 Mars 201720min

Wednesday, March 22, 2017

Wednesday, March 22, 2017

On the second day of the confirmation hearings for Judge Neil M. Gorsuch, senators want to know about his independence from the man who nominated him. Guests: Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court for The New York Times; Cynthia Orr, the plaintiff in an important case that Judge Gorsuch decided. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2nrXHsE. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

22 Mars 201718min

Tuesday, March 21, 2017

Tuesday, March 21, 2017

He said it under oath. James Comey, the head of the F.B.I., confirms at a House hearing that his agency is investigating the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, and says it will pursue it “no matter how long that takes.” And why the president’s Supreme Court nominee is likely to say almost nothing of substance at his confirmation hearings this week. Guests: Matt Apuzzo, who covers the F.B.I. for The Times; Barbara Dury, a producer at Retro Report. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2n5WeGA. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

21 Mars 201721min

Monday, March 20, 2017

Monday, March 20, 2017

There is no knock on the door, just the sound of a SWAT team smashing through it. Times reporter Kevin Sack talks about his year-long investigation into a controversial police tactic. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2nAHfHi. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

20 Mars 201716min

Friday, March 17, 2017

Friday, March 17, 2017

As a candidate, Donald J. Trump called for a total Muslim ban. Now that he’s president, the courts won’t let him forget it. And as the White House fights to protect the travel ban, we discuss the immigration story of our vice president, Mike Pence. Guests: Adam Liptak, the Supreme Court reporter for The New York Times; Sheryl Gay Stolberg, The Times’s domestic affairs correspondent. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2nQS8lw. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

17 Mars 201722min

Thursday, March 16, 2017

Thursday, March 16, 2017

President Trump’s plan to deregulate America is underway. He’s starting in the heart of America, with one of Barack Obama’s most cherished regulations. And Mr. Trump will soon meet with Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany for the first time. Guests: Eric Lipton, an investigative reporter for The Times who’s tracking every regulatory change under the Trump administration; and Alison Smale, The Times’s Berlin bureau chief. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2nM3R4b. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

16 Mars 201720min

Wednesday, March 15, 2017

Wednesday, March 15, 2017

Eight men. Ten days. An extraordinary plan to rush a series of executions on Arkansas’ death row. Guest: Alan Blinder, the New York Times reporter who is tracking the case. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2mwxoym. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

15 Mars 201719min

Tuesday, March 14, 2017

Tuesday, March 14, 2017

The rise of the far right in Europe. Why the populism that put Donald J. Trump in the White House is starting to sweep across the Continent, as voters there confront similar questions of national identity and immigration. Guests: Amanda Taub and Max Fisher, who write the Interpreter column for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2n9sMC1. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

14 Mars 201718min

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