BEYOND THE VEIL: The Secrets of Lori Vallow Daybell, PART 1

BEYOND THE VEIL: The Secrets of Lori Vallow Daybell, PART 1

Lori Vallow Daybell has been convicted of murdering her two children, but right before her trial began in April, Hidden hosts John and Lauren Matthias sat down to ask the question many have been wondering: Did Lori change before she commited her crimes, or is this who Lori Vallow has always been? This is PART 1 of a TWO PART Episode exploring Lori Vallow Daybell's mind. A forensic psychologist and journalist (who are husband and wife) explore the inner workings of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Daybell's minds, as well as the hidden motivations driving a series of inexplicable murders in 2019. While Lauren attended Lori's trial and plans to attend her sentencing in July of 2023, the hosts continue interviewing and investigating what's Hidden, just as they have been for three years. You can get caught up by listening to our full 'Beyond the Veil" season. LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Boise, Idaho Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes and criminals to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah and in 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and has been reporting with News Nation throughout the trial. She is the producer and editor of the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist. DR. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and has consulted on numerous high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states. In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California. Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day. Dr. Matthias is an adjunct assistant professor in the University of Nevada Las Vegas clinical psychology doctoral program. He supervises UNLV doctoral students on forensic assessments, clinical case formulation, and various therapeutic approaches to clinical work. Contact them at HiddenTrueCrimeInfo@gmail.com WEBSITE: https://hiddentruecrime.com/ TO SUPPORT: https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime https://paypal.me/hiddentruecrime https://cash.app/$hiddenTruecrime. DISCLAIMER: The views of our guests/interviewees, do not reflect the views of Hidden True Crime. Our Sponsors:* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.armoire.style* Check out Effecty and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.effecty.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://happymammoth.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Monster Mom and Step Dad Indicted After 10-Year-Old Found in Plastic Tote | Jayden Spicer Updates

Monster Mom and Step Dad Indicted After 10-Year-Old Found in Plastic Tote | Jayden Spicer Updates

A missing child. A shallow grave. And now—murder charges. Ten-year-old Jayden Spicer’s case has taken a shocking turn as both his mother and stepfather are indicted. What really happened inside that home? MINT MOBILE: This year, skip breaking a sweat AND breaking the bank. Get this new customer offer and your 3-month Unlimited wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month at Mintmobile.com/HIDDEN About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Hatfield McCoy Museum Adventures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

20 Aug 21min

From Victim to Suspect? MAJOR Updates Cast Doubt on Moms Story in Emmanuel Haro’s Disappearance

From Victim to Suspect? MAJOR Updates Cast Doubt on Moms Story in Emmanuel Haro’s Disappearance

As day 5 of the search for the missing 7-month-old baby from Yucaipa, California passes, major updates are being released. Lauren is here to break it all down. What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

19 Aug 28min

Kidnapped or Parents at Fault?! | What Happened to Yucaipa Baby Emmanuel Haro?

Kidnapped or Parents at Fault?! | What Happened to Yucaipa Baby Emmanuel Haro?

On August 14, 2025, seven-month-old Emmanuel Haro vanished from a Big 5 parking lot in Yucaipa, California. His mother claims she was attacked while shopping—but investigators quickly found inconsistencies in her story. Now, with no Amber Alert, no suspects, and police saying they can’t rule out foul play, the search for Emmanuel is growing darker by the day. About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

18 Aug 22min

The Mind Behind Stephen Stern’s Final Words | The Psychology Hidden in his Sentencing Speech

The Mind Behind Stephen Stern’s Final Words | The Psychology Hidden in his Sentencing Speech

Stephen Sterns was recently sentenced for both the abuse and the murder of Madeline Soto after taking a plea deal. Clinical and Forensic Psychologist Dr. John Matthias is here to assess the sentencing statements, the risks of re-offense, and more. Save 20% off Honeylove by going to https://honeylove.com/hidden About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

17 Aug 1h 3min

Mom Charged After 10 Year Old Found in Shallow Grave — Jayden Spicer Chilling FULL STORY

Mom Charged After 10 Year Old Found in Shallow Grave — Jayden Spicer Chilling FULL STORY

When 10-year-old Jayden Spicer vanished from his Kentucky home, his family begged for prayers. Days later, his body was found in a shallow grave—and the shocking confession that followed has left a community demanding answers. In this episode, we unravel the timeline, the red flags, and the haunting questions that remain About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

15 Aug 33min

Kevin Franke SLAMS Jodi Hildebrandt in Newly Filed Lawsuit Claiming Isolation, Manipulation and…

Kevin Franke SLAMS Jodi Hildebrandt in Newly Filed Lawsuit Claiming Isolation, Manipulation and…

A new lawsuit is pulling back the curtain on Kevin Franke’s life inside Jodi Hildebrandt’s grip. In newly filed court documents, Franke lays out disturbing claims of psychological abuse, manipulation, and control — revealing a darker side to the therapist who once had access to his family. Could these allegations explain how this nightmare unfolded? About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11 Aug 28min

 EXCLUSIVE: James Craig Jurors Break Their Silence: “I Couldn’t Sleep and…

EXCLUSIVE: James Craig Jurors Break Their Silence: “I Couldn’t Sleep and…

In this exclusive Hidden True Crime interview, three jurors from the James Craig trial break their silence with Lauren — revealing what convinced them of his guilt, the moments that shocked them most in court, and what it was really like inside the jury room. REMI Go to http://shopremi.com/HIDDEN and use code HIDDEN at checkout for 50% off. About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10 Aug 1h 10min

What the Cameras Missed as Victims Faced Bryan Kohberger One Last Time - with Susan Hendricks

What the Cameras Missed as Victims Faced Bryan Kohberger One Last Time - with Susan Hendricks

Lauren is here with Susan Hendricks, host of Headline Crime, and they dive into all the things, starting with what the cameras didn't show during Bryan Kohberger's sentencing. Subscribe to Susan here: https://www.youtube.com/@HeadlineCrimeSusan Visit http://cornbreadhemp.com/hidden and use code HIDDEN at checkout for 30% off your first order About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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