The Camm Family Murders: A Conversation with Investigator Gary Dunn on the Probable Cause Affidavit for the Arrest of David Camm
Murder Sheet23 Jan 2024

The Camm Family Murders: A Conversation with Investigator Gary Dunn on the Probable Cause Affidavit for the Arrest of David Camm

On September 28, 2000, former Indiana State trooper David Camm returned to his Floyd County, Indiana home to find his wife and children murdered. After three trials and thirteen years in prison, he was acquitted. Camm's case remains known as one of the most egregious wrongful convictions in Indiana's recent history. So what did happen to the Camm family? Why did investigators hone in on Camm despite the fact a violent felon's DNA was found at the murder scene? What was the real story of all the blood evidence used to arrest and convict Camm?

Retired Federal Bureau of Investigation agent Gary Dunn was kind enough to share with us a copy of the probable cause affidavit in Camm's case. Dunn investigated Camm's case for the defense, and chronicled his experience in the book Their Bloody Lies and Persecution of David Camm: Part One. It's a great book that delves deeply into the crime. He is working on part two.

In this episode, we will go through the entire PCA with Gary, and he will explain the weaknesses and fabrications in the case.

By Gary's detailed book on the case: Their Bloody Lies and Persecution of David Camm

Also, check out Gary's website on the case, to read the first chapter for free: https://www.theirbloodylies.com/

A report from the News and Tribune on the day of the Camm family murders: https://www.newsandtribune.com/news/local_news/normal-day-ended-in-murder-for-camm-family/article_27335bd2-cdaf-5cfc-bb31-e104409b464d.html

A WAVE report on the 2006 trial: https://www.wave3.com/story/4488420/february-9-2006-day-24-pieces-to-the-puzzle/

A WAVE report on the 2006 conviction: https://www.wave3.com/story/4600249/camm-jurors-say-they-were-swayed-by-medical-evidence/

A News and Tribune report on the case: https://www.newsandtribune.com/news/local_news/judge-drops-conspiracy-charge-against-david-camm/article_30761d6b-85e4-5d1f-86c2-750c089e9b0c.html

A post from Officer.com on the Camm case: https://www.officer.com/home/article/10250471/murder-on-lockhart-road

A WDRB report on Donald Forrester's role in the Camm case: https://www.wdrb.com/news/david-camm-blog-jailhouse-informants/article_23d3b6e8-8a19-5cba-98e3-1aecaa2c410f.html

A report from WAVE on the third and final trial in the Camm case: https://www.wave3.com/story/23652064/camm-trial-109-prosecutors-smack-touch-dna-favorable-to-camm-as-unreliable/

A WAVE report on calls relevant to the Camm case: https://www.wave3.com/story/23394189/camm-trial-827-camm-called-investigator-wifes-employer-before-arrest/

A WDRB report on Janice Renn's testimony: https://www.wdrb.com/news/david-camm-blog-janice-renn-testifies/article_9f6128c6-d70d-5bbe-971e-8b86c87f545c.html

Another book by John Glatt on the case: One Deadly Night: A State Trooper, Triple Homicide, and a Search for Justice

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The Delphi Murders: First Person: Chief Deputy Prosecutor Stacey Diener: Part Two

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