What Matters Now to archaeologist Jodi Magness: Ever-changing, eternal Jerusalem
What Matters Now6 Juni 2024

What Matters Now to archaeologist Jodi Magness: Ever-changing, eternal Jerusalem

Welcome to What Matters Now, a weekly podcast exploring one key issue currently shaping Israel and the Jewish World. This week, host deputy editor Amanda Borschel-Dan speaks with archaeologist Prof. Jodi Magness.

This Wednesday, Israel marked Jerusalem Day, which celebrates the reunification of Jerusalem following the 1967 Six-Day War.

But the capital has a rich and fascinating history of rulership changes since its foundation in circa 1000 BCE.

Magness just published her latest book, "Jerusalem Through the Ages: From Its Beginnings to the Crusades," through Oxford University Press. She stopped by The Times of Israel's Jerusalem offices to speak about the ancient eternal city's rulerships and populations throughout the eras.

“Jerusalem Through the Ages” is a 700-page weighty tome that delves into the city’s history through archaeological evidence and also texts, including the Bible and extra-biblical material such as the Egyptian Amarna Letters.

Magness is Kenan Distinguished Professor for Teaching Excellence in Early Judaism at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and the author of 11 books, including "Masada: From Jewish Revolt to Modern Myth," "Stone and Dung, Oil and Spit: Jewish Daily Life in the Time of Jesus," and "The Archaeology of Qumran and the Dead Sea Scrolls." From 2011 until 2023, Magness directed excavations at Huqoq in Israel’s Galilee and uncovered its breathtaking mosaics.

So this Jerusalem Day, we take a quick break from our current war and ask archaeologist Prof. Jodi Magness, what mattered then?

What Matters Now podcasts are available for download on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. This episode was produced by the Pod-Waves.

IMAGE: Prof. Jodi Magness in Jerusalem's Church of the Holy Sepulchre, on April 11, 2022. (Amanda Borschel-Dan/The Times of Israel)

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What Matters Now to Haviv Rettig Gur: Egypt's farcical plan for postwar Gaza

What Matters Now to Haviv Rettig Gur: Egypt's farcical plan for postwar Gaza

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What Matters Now to critic Jordan Hoffman: 5 films for Jews to follow at the Oscars

What Matters Now to critic Jordan Hoffman: 5 films for Jews to follow at the Oscars

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27 Feb 42min

What Matters Now to Haviv Rettig Gur: Why is Israel handing Gaza back to Hamas?

What Matters Now to Haviv Rettig Gur: Why is Israel handing Gaza back to Hamas?

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19 Feb 38min

What Matters Now to Haviv Rettig Gur: Trump's Gaza plan is a warning

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13 Feb 29min

What Matters Now to Haviv Rettig Gur: Death penalty for terrorists?

What Matters Now to Haviv Rettig Gur: Death penalty for terrorists?

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What Matters Now to Yad Vashem head Dani Dayan: What to do when 'friends' disappoint

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27 Jan 35min

What Matters Now to Adir Miller and mom Marianne: Getting the last laugh after the Holocaust

What Matters Now to Adir Miller and mom Marianne: Getting the last laugh after the Holocaust

Welcome to What Matters Now, a weekly podcast exploring key issues currently shaping Israel and the Jewish World, with host deputy editor Amanda Borschel-Dan speaking with comedian/filmmaker Adir Miller and his mother Marianne Miller, a child Holocaust survivor. On January 27, Marianne -- a well-known Israeli speaker and educator -- will address the United Nations General Assembly on International Holocaust Remembrance Day, commemorating the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau. Born in wartime Budapest, Marianne will speak in New York about her survival story, surrounded by three generations of her family, as she was last year while leading a March of the Living delegation from the city of her birth to Auschwitz. As a baby, Marianne was saved by her mother, who tore off her yellow star and, holding her daughter, ran away from a transport for mothers and children to certain death. They evaded capture after Marianne's mother bribed an Arrow Cross Hungarian Nazi soldier with a simple golden ring. Son Adir, one of Israel's most celebrated comedians and artists, used his mother's stunning survival story as the basis of his recent movie, "The Ring," which he wrote, directed and starred in. "The Ring" is playing now in Israeli theaters with some 240,000 viewers so far. It will be screened in New York on January 28 at a special screening hosted by the Israeli-American Council (IAC). This year marks 80 years since the liberation of Auschwitz, where over 1.2 million people, including 400,000 Hungarian Jews, were murdered. So this week, we ask Adir and Marianne Miller, what matters now. What Matters Now podcasts are available for download on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. This episode was produced by the Pod-Waves. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

23 Jan 36min

What Matters Now to Haviv Rettig Gur: Hamas's survival is Gaza's tragedy

What Matters Now to Haviv Rettig Gur: Hamas's survival is Gaza's tragedy

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16 Jan 27min

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