Dr. Melanie Joy on Going Beyond Carnism: Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs and Wear Cows

Dr. Melanie Joy on Going Beyond Carnism: Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs and Wear Cows

Why do we love dogs, but eat cows? Cooking up your golden retriever would be an unthinkable abomination. But barbecued beef? That's about as normal as it gets. It's just the way things are. But why? The logic and social mechanisms behind why we eat some animals and not others is a behavioral inconsistency unexamined to the point of absurdity — both psychologically complex and strange — very strange indeed. Many guests on this podcast have elaborated on why we shouldn't eat meat. This week I sit down with Melanie Joy, Ph.D, Ed.M to explain why we do eat meat. An idea she coined carnism, Dr. Joy's work centers around the psychology of eating meat, what is known as the “meat paradox” – our irrational, inconsistent and species specific attitudes toward various animals – why we express affection towards certain animals while eating others – and the cognitive dissonance this entails. A Harvard-educated social psychologist, Dr. Joy is a celebrated speaker, organizational consultant, author of the award-winning book, Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows*, and eighth recipient of the Institute of Jainology's Ahimsa Award, which was previously awarded to Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. Her work has been featured by numerous national and international media outlets, including the BBC, NPR, and the New York Times. And she is the founder of the non-profit Beyond Carnism, which challenges dominant ideologies around food choice and systems and promotes a more mindful approach to our consumer choices. I came across Dr. Joy’s work via her popular TEDx Talk, Toward Rational, Authentic Food Choices — a very intelligent and cogent exploration of our normative cultural behaviors and attitudes around the food we eat and why — and have wanted to get her on the podcast ever since. I only had a tight hour with Dr. Joy, so this is a very focused discourse on speciesism and the psychological defense mechanisms we employ to rationalize our food choices. It's a conversation about the psychology of social change, and it's about how to employ psychologically optimal strategies in the advocacy of positive cultural change. Specific topics explored include: * the concept of carnism * psychological defense mechanisms to eating animals * speciesism * carnistic justifications and “humane meat” * the rise of meat & dairy alternatives * the psychology of social change * the impact of the locavore movement * masculinity of meat & gender stereotypes * how to effectively advocate for veganism Whip smart, Dr. Joy peels back the fallacious facade of logic and exposes the denial that surrounds these cultural mores with keen intellect and grace. Irrespective of your dietary proclivities, my hope is that this provocative conversation will challenge assumptions and inspire you to make more informed consumer choices that more adeptly align with your core values as an empathetic and compassionate citizen. It was a pleasure to talk with Dr. Joy and I sincerely hope you enjoy the exchange. Peace + Plants, Rich

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Win The Inside Game: High Performance Psychology, Busting Fitness Myths, & Getting Unstuck With Elite Coach Steve Magness

Win The Inside Game: High Performance Psychology, Busting Fitness Myths, & Getting Unstuck With Elite Coach Steve Magness

Steve Magness is a renowned performance expert and author of “Win the Inside Game,” who has dedicated his career to examining why we often calcify into patterns that no longer serve us.   This conversation explores how our modern obsession with achievement often leads to self-sabotage. Through the aperture of his journey from elite runner to pioneering coach, Steve offers a framework for sustainable excellence that emphasizes internal growth over external validation.   Steve reveals how social media hijacks our basic needs, why group identity threatens individual growth, and what it truly means to win the inside game.   This is a masterclass in moving beyond surviving to genuinely thriving. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Pique: Get up to 20% OFF plus a FREE rechargeable frother and glass beaker with your first purchase 👉🏾 piquelife.com/richroll On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll Rocket Money: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money 👉 RocketMoney.com/RICHROLL. Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

30 Jan 2h 16min

The 5 Types of Wealth: Sahil Bloom On Why Time, Friends, Mind & Body Always Come Before Money

The 5 Types of Wealth: Sahil Bloom On Why Time, Friends, Mind & Body Always Come Before Money

Sahil Bloom is a Stanford athlete turned finance executive whose life took an unexpected turn when a friend's observation catalyzed a complete reevaluation of success. This conversation explores his perspective on wealth, which transcends traditional metrics to embrace a more expansive definition of abundance. We discuss his framework of the Five Types of Wealth, the power of tiny actions to reshape destiny, and how to deploy your attention toward what truly matters. He shares profound insights on nourishing relationships, differentiating between urgent and essential, and finding purpose through service. Sahil is wise beyond his years. Enjoy! Note: In celebration of Sahil's appearance on the podcast, we're giving away three signed copies of his transformative book. Subscribe to the newsletter at richroll.com/subscribe for a chance to win. Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Momentous: 20% OFF all of my favorite products  👉livemomentous.com/richroll On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL  👉ROKA.com/RICHROLL Calm: Get get 40% off a Calm Premium subscription 👉 calm.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

27 Jan 2h 2min

Introducing Feel Better, Live More: The Secret To A Happy Life With Eliud Kipchoge (The World’s Fastest Man)

Introducing Feel Better, Live More: The Secret To A Happy Life With Eliud Kipchoge (The World’s Fastest Man)

Today I’m sharing an episode of Feel Better, Live More hosted by Dr. Rangan Chatterjee. In this episode, Dr. Chatterjee sits down with Eliud Kipchoge, the legendary Kenyan long-distance runner who became the first person to run a sub-two-hour marathon. Subscribe to Feel Better, Live More on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

23 Jan 1h 43min

Dr. Rhonda Patrick On Why Exercise Fuels The Brain, How Microplastics Poison The Body, & The Science Of Fitness

Dr. Rhonda Patrick On Why Exercise Fuels The Brain, How Microplastics Poison The Body, & The Science Of Fitness

Dr. Rhonda Patrick is a renowned scientist, researcher, and the founder of FoundMyFitness. This conversation explores how exercise enhances brain function—upending old beliefs about lactate—while examining new research on microplastics’ accumulation in our bodies and practical ways to protect ourselves. In the process, Rhonda helps me understand my own relationship with exercise intensity and chronic exposure to environmental toxins. As always, Rhonda provides fascinating insights along with practical wisdom. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% OFF your first order 👉seed.com/RichRoll Go Brewing: Use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF  👉gobrewing.com Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL  👉ROKA.com/RICHROLL Squarespace: Use the offer code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase  👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll Birch: For 27% off ALL mattresses and 2 free eco-rest pillows 👉BirchLiving.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

20 Jan 2h 46min

U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy’s Final Prescription for America

U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy’s Final Prescription for America

Vice Admiral Dr. Vivek Murthy is America’s Surgeon General, a visionary public health leader, and architect of groundbreaking initiatives addressing loneliness and youth mental health.   This conversation—likely his final interview in office—reveals how disconnection underlies our growing health challenges. We explore the parental mental health crisis, the impact of social media on youth, and his powerful parting prescription for America: choose community. While his recent landmark advisory on alcohol warning labels came after our recording, we delve into his vision for healing by rebuilding connection.    Dr. Murthy offers us medicine for what ails us. This one is special. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll This episode is brought to you by Better Help: Listeners get 10% off their first month 👉BetterHelp.com/RICHROLL Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

16 Jan 2h

Slow, Stop, & Reverse Aging: Peter Diamandis On Longevity Protocols, Lifestyle Medicine, & Optimizing Healthspan

Slow, Stop, & Reverse Aging: Peter Diamandis On Longevity Protocols, Lifestyle Medicine, & Optimizing Healthspan

Peter Diamandis is a renowned physician, futurist, and the founder of XPRIZE, whose paradigm-shifting work transforms our understanding of aging and human potential. This conversation delves into the duality of our longevity revolution: the simple, actionable tools accessible to anyone today, and the bold technologies that could reshape our future. From innovative diagnostics to organ regeneration, Peter details why this decade might fundamentally alter our relationship with aging. Along the way, we examine practical health strategies and the philosophical implications of extending human healthspan. Peter is the ultimate optimist. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Momentous: 20% OFF all of my favorite products  👉livemomentous.com/richroll Go Brewing: Use code Rich Roll for 15% OFF  👉gobrewing.com LMNT: Get a FREE Sample Pack with any drink mix purchase👉drinkLMNT.com/RICHROLL OneSkin: Get 15% off with the code RICHROLL 👉oneskin.co Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

13 Jan 1h 57min

The (Not So) Subtle Art Of Mark Manson: The Truth About Self-Help, Transformation, & Life Advice That Doesn’t Suck

The (Not So) Subtle Art Of Mark Manson: The Truth About Self-Help, Transformation, & Life Advice That Doesn’t Suck

Mark Manson is a renowned author and cultural critic, known for “The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck”—a global phenomenon that has remained on the NYT bestseller list for an unprecedented 328 weeks.   This conversation explores the paradox between genuine growth and modern self-help culture. We discuss Mark’s dramatic transformation, his contrarian views on personal development, why being intelligent often hinders change, and how the most effective solutions in life are typically the boring ones no one wants to hear about.   In today’s metrics-driven landscape, he reveals how to navigate content creation with integrity.   Mark is endlessly insightful. This one is profound and irreverently fun. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Nordic Track: Take 10% off any purchase of $999+ with code RICHROLL 👉nordictrack.com/rich-roll Squarespace: Use the offer code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase  👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll Calm: Get 40% off a Calm Premium subscription 👉calm.com/richroll. Bon Charge: Use code RICHROLL to save 15% OFF boncharge.com Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

6 Jan 1h 57min

The Best Of 2024: Part Two

The Best Of 2024: Part Two

In this concluding chapter of our “Best Of” 2024 series, we share wisdom from an extraordinary group of changemakers who challenged our assumptions and expanded our possibilities.   From a septuagenarian fitness icon to Spider-Man himself, from free solo climbers to modern mystics—each guest illuminated different facets of human potential. Their stories of courage, creativity, and conscious living remind us that transformation is always possible.   I’m deeply grateful to our guests for their vulnerability, to my team for their dedication, and to our sponsors for their continued support.   But most of all, I’m grateful for you, the listener. Your willingness to grow and transform alongside us makes this journey meaningful.   Thank you for sharing another remarkable year. Here’s to an extraordinary 2025. Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll Nordic Track: Learn more about their next-level tech and machines 👉nordictrack.com/rich-roll Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much 👉airbnb.com/host Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

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