RRU 082: Progressive SSR with Dinesh Pandiyan
React Round Up8 Okt 2019

RRU 082: Progressive SSR with Dinesh Pandiyan

Dinesh Pandiyan is a developer from India. He started as a backend engineer and then moved to frontend. Currently he is working for ThinkMill in Sidney, Australia. Today Dinesh and the panel are talking about devtools and progressive SSR. Dinesh got started with React Redux. The panelists talk about their experiences using primarily Redux for projects. Dinesh talks about his transition from backend to frontend and how it’s a totally different world. On the backend he was working in Java and it ran on a server, but on the frontend, code runs in a browser and the browser is very different for each user. Frontend development is tricky because you don’t know where your code is going to run. One of the trickiest parts of frontend development is debugging something in production. Unless you have good logging tools, you won’t know what’s going on. Debugging this stuff when it’s running on client browsers is hard, but when you’re in development mode your own browser you’ve got handy tools. They talk about some of the tools in React, and agree that console.log is the greatest debugging tool of all time. Dinesh talks about some of the most surprising features about React dev tools. You can benchmark your preferences and identify weaklings in your project, which are things that slow down your application or things that might slow it down. On an application level, you have to build a mental model of how the data flows from the top, where things change, etc, and dev tools can help you build that pretty easily. They talk about how things had to be done before great React tools. In fact, Dinesh chose React just for the devtools. They talk about how the dev tools for React compare to Java. The most important thing is that you have a good debugger that can stop where you want it to. They transition to talking about the differences between SSR and progressive SSR For SSR (Server Side Rendering), rendering happens on the server and you send it to the client. CSSR (Client Server Side Rendering) is when all the rendering happens on the client’s side. PSSR (Progressive Server Side Rendering) is where you render small chunks on the server and then send it to the client bit by bit. They talk about how this has been occurring from the beginning of the internet. This concept is similar to microfrontends. Dinesh gives advice on how to implement PSSR. He says that when you surver render, it loads on differently. Your framework has to do one complete pass of the histiema, so this means you cannot send things to the client until the whole histema is designated. To beat this they’ve been doing a mix of SSR and CSR, with the header, body, and non critical content rendering on the client side. PSSR bridges the gap between SSR and CSSR. How do we make it real and how do we use it? The panel discusses ways to make PSSR a reality. Dinesh has been experimenting with it with extra services, and he gives his method for doing it, emphasizing the importance of where you divide your code is very important, it has to be in sequence. CSS Grid solves this problem, so you could render things out of order and the browser puts it in the right spot. They talk about other ways to get around it. Lucas shares some of the difficulties he’s encountered with streaming and rendering. They talk about the new feature for the Phoenix framework for Elixir, Live View Now. For this feature, you don’t need client side frameworks to generate dynamic content and it enables two way streaming. However, it does not scale well for extremely large apps. They talk about some of the tradeoffs for using this feature. They conclude by discussing the gap between website optimization and device performance. Panelists
  • Thomas Aylott
  • Dave Ceddia
  • Lucas Reis
With special guest: Dinesh Pandiyan Sponsors Links Follow DevChatTV on Facebook and Twitter Picks Lucas Reis: Thomas Aylott: Dinesh Pandiyan: David Ceddia: Special Guest: Dinesh Pandiyan.

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Mastering Component Reusability with Gilad Shoham - RRU 251

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Exploring Functional Programming: Tools, Techniques, and Industry Insights - RRU 250

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Exploring Jotai: Atomic State Management in React - RRU 249

Exploring Jotai: Atomic State Management in React - RRU 249

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Material UI Matters: Unpacking the Flexibility and Accessibility of the Library - RRU 248

Material UI Matters: Unpacking the Flexibility and Accessibility of the Library - RRU 248

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Gherkin with Chris Frewin from InClub - RRU 247

Gherkin with Chris Frewin from InClub - RRU 247

Today we talk with Chris Frewin, a full-stack software engineer at private experience startup InClub, located in Zurich, Switzerland. Involved with all coding aspects, from the back-end, mobile app, CMS, and everything in-between, we learn about the challenges of being a solo developer at a startup. We learn a lot about Gherkin, the format for cucumber specifications.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateRaygun - Application Monitoring For Web & Mobile AppsDeveloper Book Club startingLinksHomeGherkin SyntaxJest10 Minute Tutorial - Cucumber DocumentationDetoxcypress.ioThe Clean Code BlogAdvanced Code Organization Patterns: The Case For One Function Per FileOne Year as the Chief Technology Officer at InClubStructure and Interpretation of Test Cases - Kevlin HenneyChris' Full Stack BlogPicksChris- The Lean Startup: How Today's Entrepreneurs Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful BusinessesChris- The Complete Isaac Asimov's Foundation Series Books 1-7 (Foundation, Foundation and Empire, Second Foundation, Foundation's Edge, Foundation and Earth, Prelude to Foundation, Forward the Foundation)Jack- Millennium Falcon™ 75192 | Star Wars™ | Buy online at the Official LEGO® Shop USPaige- Amazon.com : plastic wrap dispenser with cutterTJ- Amazon.com: Amazon GoAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/react-round-up--6102072/support.

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Assessing UI Libraries for Web Development Flexibility and Accessibility - RRU 246

Assessing UI Libraries for Web Development Flexibility and Accessibility - RRU 246

Chris, Lucas, and Peter dive into the world of UI libraries and the important considerations when selecting one for web development projects. They discuss the pros and cons of using popular libraries, emphasizing the importance of accessibility, internationalization, and long-term implications when making a choice. They also share their preferred libraries and promote their projects, providing valuable insights for developers navigating the diverse landscape of UI libraries. Stay tuned for an engaging discussion on the challenges and best practices of utilizing UI libraries for web development. SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocial MediaUnvoidLinkedIn @unvoidweb https://www.linkedin.com/company/unvoidwebInstagram @unvoidweb https://www.instagram.com/unvoidwebLucas PaganiniYouTube @lucaspaganiniweb https://youtube.com/@lucaspaganiniwebLinkedIn @lucaspaganiniweb https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucaspaganiniwebTwitter @lucaspaganini https://twitter.com/LucasPaganiniInstagram @lucaspaganini https://www.instagram.com/lucaspaganiniChris FrewinGitHub @princefishthrower https://github.com/princefishthrowerBlog Chris Frewin https://chrisfrew.in/Peter OsahLinkedIn @peterosah https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-osah-744118179/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/react-round-up--6102072/support.

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Dean Radcliffe is a senior software engineer at Optum. They explore the groundbreaking new library 𝗥𝘅𝑓𝑥, designed to revolutionize the handling of asynchronous effects in code for enhanced user experience and code stability. They lead a discussion on the significance of cancellation, concurrency, and error recovery for user experience and code stability, drawing analogies to a circuit breaker panel for managing async effects in code. They delve into practical implementations, the framework-agnostic nature, and the potential of 𝗥𝘅𝑓𝑥 in simplifying reactivity features within React.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksRxfxSocial MediaUnvoidLinkedIn @unvoidweb https://www.linkedin.com/company/unvoidwebInstagram @unvoidweb https://www.instagram.com/unvoidwebLucas PaganiniYouTube @lucaspaganiniweb https://youtube.com/@lucaspaganiniwebLinkedIn @lucaspaganiniweb https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucaspaganiniwebTwitter @lucaspaganini https://twitter.com/LucasPaganiniInstagram @lucaspaganini https://www.instagram.com/lucaspaganiniChris FrewinGitHub @princefishthrower https://github.com/princefishthrowerBlog Chris Frewin https://chrisfrew.in/Peter OsahLinkedIn @peterosah https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-osah-744118179/Dean RadcliffeGitHub @deanrad https://github.com/deanradTwitter @@DeanDevDad https://twitter.com/DeanDevDadAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/react-round-up--6102072/support.

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React Tooling and Technology Stack Diversity - RRU 244

React Tooling and Technology Stack Diversity - RRU 244

Chris, Lucas, and Peter engage in a deep technical discussion about package managers, testing tools, and technology preferences in React projects. The conversation emphasizes the extensive tech stacks used in React projects and the importance of functional programming and TypeScript. Additionally, they share valuable insights on UI libraries, JavaScript packages, and software and design team extension services, hinting at the potential for a future follow-up episode dedicated to front-end technologies. Whether you're a seasoned developer or a newcomer to the field, this episode offers in-depth insights into the ever-evolving world of front-end development.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateRaygun - Application Monitoring For Web & Mobile AppsDeveloper Book Club startingSocial MediaUnvoidLinkedIn @unvoidweb https://www.linkedin.com/company/unvoidwebInstagram @unvoidweb https://www.instagram.com/unvoidwebLucas PaganiniYouTube @lucaspaganiniweb https://youtube.com/@lucaspaganiniwebLinkedIn @lucaspaganiniweb https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucaspaganiniwebTwitter @lucaspaganini https://twitter.com/LucasPaganiniInstagram @lucaspaganini https://www.instagram.com/lucaspaganiniChris FrewinGitHub @princefishthrower https://github.com/princefishthrowerBlog Chris Frewin https://chrisfrew.in/Peter OsahLinkedIn @peterosah https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-osah-744118179/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/react-round-up--6102072/support.

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