RRU 082: Progressive SSR with Dinesh Pandiyan
React Round Up8 Okt 2019

RRU 082: Progressive SSR with Dinesh Pandiyan

Dinesh Pandiyan is a developer from India. He started as a backend engineer and then moved to frontend. Currently he is working for ThinkMill in Sidney, Australia. Today Dinesh and the panel are talking about devtools and progressive SSR. Dinesh got started with React Redux. The panelists talk about their experiences using primarily Redux for projects. Dinesh talks about his transition from backend to frontend and how it’s a totally different world. On the backend he was working in Java and it ran on a server, but on the frontend, code runs in a browser and the browser is very different for each user. Frontend development is tricky because you don’t know where your code is going to run. One of the trickiest parts of frontend development is debugging something in production. Unless you have good logging tools, you won’t know what’s going on. Debugging this stuff when it’s running on client browsers is hard, but when you’re in development mode your own browser you’ve got handy tools. They talk about some of the tools in React, and agree that console.log is the greatest debugging tool of all time. Dinesh talks about some of the most surprising features about React dev tools. You can benchmark your preferences and identify weaklings in your project, which are things that slow down your application or things that might slow it down. On an application level, you have to build a mental model of how the data flows from the top, where things change, etc, and dev tools can help you build that pretty easily. They talk about how things had to be done before great React tools. In fact, Dinesh chose React just for the devtools. They talk about how the dev tools for React compare to Java. The most important thing is that you have a good debugger that can stop where you want it to. They transition to talking about the differences between SSR and progressive SSR For SSR (Server Side Rendering), rendering happens on the server and you send it to the client. CSSR (Client Server Side Rendering) is when all the rendering happens on the client’s side. PSSR (Progressive Server Side Rendering) is where you render small chunks on the server and then send it to the client bit by bit. They talk about how this has been occurring from the beginning of the internet. This concept is similar to microfrontends. Dinesh gives advice on how to implement PSSR. He says that when you surver render, it loads on differently. Your framework has to do one complete pass of the histiema, so this means you cannot send things to the client until the whole histema is designated. To beat this they’ve been doing a mix of SSR and CSR, with the header, body, and non critical content rendering on the client side. PSSR bridges the gap between SSR and CSSR. How do we make it real and how do we use it? The panel discusses ways to make PSSR a reality. Dinesh has been experimenting with it with extra services, and he gives his method for doing it, emphasizing the importance of where you divide your code is very important, it has to be in sequence. CSS Grid solves this problem, so you could render things out of order and the browser puts it in the right spot. They talk about other ways to get around it. Lucas shares some of the difficulties he’s encountered with streaming and rendering. They talk about the new feature for the Phoenix framework for Elixir, Live View Now. For this feature, you don’t need client side frameworks to generate dynamic content and it enables two way streaming. However, it does not scale well for extremely large apps. They talk about some of the tradeoffs for using this feature. They conclude by discussing the gap between website optimization and device performance. Panelists
  • Thomas Aylott
  • Dave Ceddia
  • Lucas Reis
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Using and Teaching React with Kay Plößer - RRU 235

Using and Teaching React with Kay Plößer - RRU 235

In this episode of React Round Up, the panel talks with Kay Plößer, describing their experiences learning React. Kay is a software developer from Stuttgart, Germany and the author of the book React from Zero. They discuss the best approach to learning React from scratch. Kay describes the process of writing and producing his book 'React from Zero'. Initially he started with tutorials and lessons and then turned those into a book. It is constructed in two sections: basic and advanced and it's purpose is to help developers learn React without being overwhelmed. He has received great feedback from the people who have bought the book.Kay then describes his experiences teaching React to developers and talks about his blog post React Hooks Demystified which became really popular. The panel then about how developers can increase and diversify income through writing books and side projects.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksKay's Book: React from ZeroKay's Blog Post: React Hooks DemystifiedKay’s LinkedInKay’s TwitterKay’s GitHubKay's WebsiteKay's SkillshareKay's Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/React-Round-Uphttps://twitter.com/reactroundupPicksNader - Finite and Infinite Games by James CarseLucas - An Introduction and Guide to the CSS Object ModelLucas - AST ExplorerCharles - Charles' New Devchat.tv Build on Eleventy on GitHubKay - Wardley mapsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/react-round-up--6102072/support.

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The State Machines in React with David Khourshid - RRU 234

The State Machines in React with David Khourshid - RRU 234

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React Best Practices - RRU 233

React Best Practices - RRU 233

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27 Sep 202340min

Game Development in React & Typescript with Maksim Ivanov - RRU 232

Game Development in React & Typescript with Maksim Ivanov - RRU 232

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20 Sep 202359min

All Astro with Fred Schott - RRU 231

All Astro with Fred Schott - RRU 231

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React Architecture with Tommy Groshong - RRU 230

React Architecture with Tommy Groshong - RRU 230

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Data Visualization at Scale with Andrey Goncharov - RRU 229

Data Visualization at Scale with Andrey Goncharov - RRU 229

Software Engineer Andrey Goncharov joins the React Round Up crew to discuss how his company Hazelcast has approached visualizing hundreds of data points on potentially hundreds of computers in a way that makes sense to users. Dust off your math skills - it gets a little technical along the way as they discuss graphs, charts, performance optimizations, and bottlenecks, and even handling accessibility of these data-intensive graphs. If you ever have to debug system failures and anomalies, this will be a worthwhile episode to check out.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateRaygun - Application Monitoring For Web & Mobile AppsBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksHazelcast | The Leading In-Memory Computing Platform Chart.js | Open Source HTML5 Charts for your WebsitePicksAndrey- Designing Data-Intensive Applications by Martin KleppmannPaige-  Netflix Series | The Queen’s GambitTJ- City of Stairs: A Novel (The Divine Cities) by Robert Jackson BennettSpecial Guest: Andrey Goncharov.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/react-round-up--6102072/support.

23 Aug 202343min

How to Organize Your React App ft. Tania Rascia - RRU 228

How to Organize Your React App ft. Tania Rascia - RRU 228

Tania Rascia joins the round up to discuss how to organize your code across files, directories, components, and repos within your React app. The panel chimes in with what they've seen and clarify how these approaches effect the overall application functionality of your app.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksReact Architecture: How to Structure and Organize a React Application | Tania RasciaBackends for Frontends pattern - Cloud Design Patterns | Microsoft DocsChakra UIFront End Tables: Sorting, Filtering, and Pagination | Tania RasciaPicksJack- react-location - npmPaige - Newline.coPaige- Fullstack React with Typescript courseTania - NetlifyTJ - Edge ImpulseAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/react-round-up--6102072/support.

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