The Rings of Power - S02E08 - Shadow and Flame

David and John give their final thoughts on Season 1 of The Rings of Power. They also announce their new Silmarillion read-along to help you stay in Tolkien’s world a little longer. After responding to listener feedback, they have a long and deep discussion about the show with returning Tolkien Scholar Marilyn R. Pukkila. Look for a BONUS episode later in the week with extended portions of the interview with her. The first passage for the Silmarillion read-along will be “Ainulindale.” You can find it in the first few pages of The Silmarillion. Contact Us Deep lore questions, comments and/or thoughts to share? Send us an email at lotr@thelorehounds.com Find us on Twitter @thelorehounds, on Twitch at twitch.tv/thelorehounds, or join us for further discussion of all things Star Wars over on our Discord server https://discord.gg/xdN4XCdtxU If you’d like to support us directly or have access to ad free episodes, join us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/thelorehounds Sources Marilyn R. Pukkila, Research & Instruction Librarian Emerita, Colby College. https://works.bepress.com/marilyn_r_pukkila/ Mythopea - A poem by JRR Tolkien explaining and defending creative myth-making. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoeia_(poem) Race, Tolkien, and Middle-earth, Revisited. The Prancing Pony Podcast, episode #192. https://www.spreaker.com/user/prancingponypod/201126-ppp-ep192 The Lorehounds: History of the Second Age Podcast Series Prologue: Tolkien the man and the lands and people of Middle Earth https://thelorehounds.com/episode/prologue-welcome-to-the-second-age (Jul 11, 2022) Ch. 1: History of Tolkien’s writings and the rise of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-1-the-rise-of-numenor (Jul 18, 2022) Ch. 2: History of film, tv, and radio adaptations and the fall of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-2-the-fall-of-numenor (Jul 25, 2022) Ch. 3: Tolkien’s academic career and a breakdown of the Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-3-the-elves (Aug 1, 2022) Ch. 4: Tolkien’s influence on modern fantasy and the creation of the Rings https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-4-the-rings-of-power (Aug 8, 2022) Ch. 5: Tolkien’s wartime experience and The Last Alliance of Men and Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-5-the-last-alliance (Aug 15, 2022) Ch. 6: Christopher Tolkien and the Aftermath of the war with Sauron https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-6-the-aftermath (Aug 22, 2022) Epilogue: Listener Q&A - email us and/or post in the discord https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-epilogue-feedback (Aug 29, 2022) Any opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

24 Okt 20221h 52min

David and John discuss Season 1, Episode 7: Announcement of Star Wars: Andor on Disney+. They marvel at how good an entire place setting episode can actually be. Then, they debate the best scene of the episode: Mon Mothma’s cocktail party, Cassian and Maarva’s conversation or Dedra Meero having her integrity publicly ventilated. Contact Us Questions, comments and/or deep Star Wars thoughts to share? Send us an email at andor@thelorehounds.com and we’ll get back to you during our coverage of Tales of the Jedi on December 28. Find us on Twitter @thelorehounds, on Twitch at twitch.tv/thelorehounds, or join us for further discussion of all things Star Wars over on our Discord server https://discord.gg/xdN4XCdtxU If you’d like to support us directly or have access to ad free episodes, join us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/thelorehounds Special thanks to @viama for the custom artwork! Any opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

22 Okt 202253min

David and John discuss the first six episodes of the Star Wars Disney+ series Andor. They dive into Cassian Andor’s past, his relationships, and his motivations. Is Cassian his own worst enemy? Is Star Wars best served as a heist? Will Luthen tell us his secret to quality wig making? Find out this and more on this episode. Contact Us Questions, comments and/or deep Star Wars thoughts to share? Send us an email at andor@thelorehounds.com and we’ll get back to you during our coverage of Tales of the Jedi on December 28. Find us on Twitter @thelorehounds, on Twitch at twitch.tv/thelorehounds, or join us for further discussion of all things Star Wars over on our Discord server https://discord.gg/xdN4XCdtxU If you’d like to support us directly or have access to ad free episodes, join us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/thelorehounds Special thanks to @viama for the custom artwork! Any opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

18 Okt 20221h 1min

David has returned and his veil has been lifted! David and John discussed their hot takes for Episode 8 and then deep dive into the lore around Sauron’s near redemption, the forging of the Rings of Power, and the coming of the Istari. They tied up the episode with some listener feedback about accents, character motivations, and the reception of the show before discussing the future plans for the Lorehounds. Contact Us Deep lore questions, comments and/or thoughts to share? Send us an email at lotr@thelorehounds.com Find us on Twitter @thelorehounds, on Twitch at twitch.tv/thelorehounds, or join us for further discussion of all things Tolkien over on our Discord server https://discord.gg/xdN4XCdtxU If you’d like to support us directly or have access to ad free episodes, join us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/thelorehounds Sources The Rings of Power - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rings_of_Power Nodens - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nodens Audiobooks Near the Fire - https://youtube.com/channel/UCTq1u6pUCvkCerCG_C87-_g The Lorehounds: History of the Second Age Podcast Series Prologue: Tolkien the man and the lands and people of Middle Earth https://thelorehounds.com/episode/prologue-welcome-to-the-second-age (Jul 11, 2022) Ch. 1: History of Tolkien’s writings and the rise of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-1-the-rise-of-numenor (Jul 18, 2022) Ch. 2: History of film, tv, and radio adaptations and the fall of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-2-the-fall-of-numenor (Jul 25, 2022) Ch. 3: Tolkien’s academic career and a breakdown of the Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-3-the-elves (Aug 1, 2022) Ch. 4: Tolkien’s influence on modern fantasy and the creation of the Rings https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-4-the-rings-of-power (Aug 8, 2022) Ch. 5: Tolkien’s wartime experience and The Last Alliance of Men and Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-5-the-last-alliance (Aug 15, 2022) Ch. 6: Christopher Tolkien and the Aftermath of the war with Sauron https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-6-the-aftermath (Aug 22, 2022) Epilogue: Listener Q&A - email us and/or post in the discord https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-epilogue-feedback (Aug 29, 2022) Any opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

17 Okt 20221h 49min

John was joined by Aron from Bald Move to discuss the whereabouts of Celeborn, the words of Meteor Man, and production updates on Season 2. John received the last audio diary from David before he returns for the season finale next week. Then, Craig from the Legendarium Podcast and John discussed their thoughts on the Silmarillion, Silmaril Trees, and Uncle Benjen’s transformation into an Orc. Finally, Aron and John took on some listener feedback. Contact Us Deep lore questions, comments and/or thoughts to share? Send us an email at lotr@thelorehounds.com Find us on Twitter @thelorehounds, on Twitch at twitch.tv/thelorehounds, or join us for further discussion of all things Tolkien over on our Discord server https://discord.gg/xdN4XCdtxU If you’d like to support us directly or have access to ad free episodes, join us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/thelorehounds Sources The Hollywood Reporter Article on Season 2 - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/the-rings-of-power-showrunners-interview-season-2-1235233124/amp/ The Viewership of The Rings of Power and House of the Dragon Referenced by David - https://www.theringer.com/2022/10/3/23386131/house-of-the-dragon-vs-the-rings-of-power-who-is-winning The Legendarium Podcast - https://www.thelegendarium.com/ Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52vj8O8BYGM The Lorehounds: History of the Second Age Podcast Series Prologue: Tolkien the man and the lands and people of Middle Earth https://thelorehounds.com/episode/prologue-welcome-to-the-second-age (Jul 11, 2022) Ch. 1: History of Tolkien’s writings and the rise of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-1-the-rise-of-numenor (Jul 18, 2022) Ch. 2: History of film, tv, and radio adaptations and the fall of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-2-the-fall-of-numenor (Jul 25, 2022) Ch. 3: Tolkien’s academic career and a breakdown of the Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-3-the-elves (Aug 1, 2022) Ch. 4: Tolkien’s influence on modern fantasy and the creation of the Rings https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-4-the-rings-of-power (Aug 8, 2022) Ch. 5: Tolkien’s wartime experience and The Last Alliance of Men and Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-5-the-last-alliance (Aug 15, 2022) Ch. 6: Christopher Tolkien and the Aftermath of the war with Sauron https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-6-the-aftermath (Aug 22, 2022) Epilogue: Listener Q&A - email us and/or post in the discord https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-epilogue-feedback (Aug 29, 2022) Any opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

10 Okt 20222h 7min

John was joined by Aron from Bald Move to discuss orcs, Mount Doom, and their general feelings on the season. John received another audio diary from David with some thoughts on this episode. Then, Tolkien scholar Marilyn R. Pukkila and John discussed the themes of the Second Age and Tolkien’s approach to magic. Finally, Aron and John took on some listener feedback. Contact Us Deep lore questions, comments and/or thoughts to share? Send us an email at lotr@thelorehounds.com Find us on Twitter @thelorehounds, on Twitch at twitch.tv/thelorehounds, or join us for further discussion of all things Tolkien over on our Discord server https://discord.gg/xdN4XCdtxU If you’d like to support us directly or have access to ad free episodes, join us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/thelorehounds The Lorehounds: History of the Second Age Podcast Series Prologue: Tolkien the man and the lands and people of Middle Earth https://thelorehounds.com/episode/prologue-welcome-to-the-second-age (Jul 11, 2022) Ch. 1: History of Tolkien’s writings and the rise of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-1-the-rise-of-numenor (Jul 18, 2022) Ch. 2: History of film, tv, and radio adaptations and the fall of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-2-the-fall-of-numenor (Jul 25, 2022) Ch. 3: Tolkien’s academic career and a breakdown of the Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-3-the-elves (Aug 1, 2022) Ch. 4: Tolkien’s influence on modern fantasy and the creation of the Rings https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-4-the-rings-of-power (Aug 8, 2022) Ch. 5: Tolkien’s wartime experience and The Last Alliance of Men and Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-5-the-last-alliance (Aug 15, 2022) Ch. 6: Christopher Tolkien and the Aftermath of the war with Sauron https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-6-the-aftermath (Aug 22, 2022) Epilogue: Listener Q&A - email us and/or post in the discord https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-epilogue-feedback (Aug 29, 2022) Any opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

3 Okt 20222h 5min

John was joined by Jim from Bald Move to discuss Elrond’s father Eärendil the Mariner, the origins of Mithril, and John’s beef about the status of the Silmarils. John received a surprise audio diary from David with some thoughts on this episode. Then, Tolkien scholar Marilyn R. Pukkila and John discussed the Palantíri and their role in Tolkien’s legendarium. Finally, Jim and John took on some listener feedback before John hosted the “Spoilore” feedback segment of the Lorecast. Contact Us Deep lore questions, comments and/or thoughts to share? Send us an email at lotr@thelorehounds.com Find us on Twitter @thelorehounds, on Twitch at twitch.tv/thelorehounds, or join us for further discussion of all things Tolkien over on our Discord server https://discord.gg/xdN4XCdtxU If you’d like to support us directly or have access to ad free episodes, join us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/thelorehounds The Lorehounds: History of the Second Age Podcast Series Prologue: Tolkien the man and the lands and people of Middle Earth https://thelorehounds.com/episode/prologue-welcome-to-the-second-age (Jul 11, 2022) Ch. 1: History of Tolkien’s writings and the rise of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-1-the-rise-of-numenor (Jul 18, 2022) Ch. 2: History of film, tv, and radio adaptations and the fall of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-2-the-fall-of-numenor (Jul 25, 2022) Ch. 3: Tolkien’s academic career and a breakdown of the Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-3-the-elves (Aug 1, 2022) Ch. 4: Tolkien’s influence on modern fantasy and the creation of the Rings https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-4-the-rings-of-power (Aug 8, 2022) Ch. 5: Tolkien’s wartime experience and The Last Alliance of Men and Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-5-the-last-alliance (Aug 15, 2022) Ch. 6: Christopher Tolkien and the Aftermath of the war with Sauron https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-6-the-aftermath (Aug 22, 2022) Epilogue: Listener Q&A - email us and/or post in the discord https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-epilogue-feedback (Aug 29, 2022) Any opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

26 Sep 20221h

John was joined by Jim from Bald Move to discuss the Fallen Elves of the First Age and the origins of Dwarves. David made a surprise guest appearance from the Southlands to explain who owns which screen rights to Tolkien’s legendarium. Then, Tolkien scholar Marilyn R. Pukkila and John discussed the first few episodes of the new series. Lastly, Jim and John took on some listener feedback before John hosted the first “Spoilore” feedback segment of the Lorecast. Contact Us Deep lore questions, comments and/or thoughts to share? Send us an email at lotr@thelorehounds.com Find us on Twitter @thelorehounds, on Twitch at twitch.tv/thelorehounds, or join us for further discussion of all things Tolkien over on our Discord server https://discord.gg/xdN4XCdtxU If you’d like to support us directly or have access to ad free episodes, join us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/thelorehounds The Lorehounds: History of the Second Age Podcast Series Prologue: Tolkien the man and the lands and people of Middle Earth https://thelorehounds.com/episode/prologue-welcome-to-the-second-age (Jul 11, 2022) Ch. 1: History of Tolkien’s writings and the rise of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-1-the-rise-of-numenor (Jul 18, 2022) Ch. 2: History of film, tv, and radio adaptations and the fall of Númenor https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-2-the-fall-of-numenor (Jul 25, 2022) Ch. 3: Tolkien’s academic career and a breakdown of the Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-3-the-elves (Aug 1, 2022) Ch. 4: Tolkien’s influence on modern fantasy and the creation of the Rings https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-4-the-rings-of-power (Aug 8, 2022) Ch. 5: Tolkien’s wartime experience and The Last Alliance of Men and Elves https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-5-the-last-alliance (Aug 15, 2022) Ch. 6: Christopher Tolkien and the Aftermath of the war with Sauron https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-chapter-6-the-aftermath (Aug 22, 2022) Epilogue: Listener Q&A - email us and/or post in the discord https://thelorehounds.com/episode/the-second-age-epilogue-feedback (Aug 29, 2022) Any opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

19 Sep 20221h 19min