359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR2PYtLLnI) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Vp_08T0Ucik

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:42 - Intro music
02:07 - Introduction
05:07 - John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
08:49 - Why Christian faith?
15:38 - Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
18:27 - The current dialogos
21:10 - Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
25:52 - Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
32:20 - Grief and the qualities of love
37:40 - Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
41:43 - Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
44:49 - John: Being is good / Not escape
46:54 - Jonathan: Theosis
49:25 - What if this is a crypto-egoism?
55:26 - Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
01:01:29 - Zen: Does the infinite love you?
01:11:39 - Intimacy
01:22:18 - We can't be meta
01:27:47 - Universalism
01:29:01 - We each have our callings
01:30:21 - John and Christianity

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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

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138 - Guy Sengstock - Being, Intelligibility and God

138 - Guy Sengstock - Being, Intelligibility and God

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Guy Sengstock is a thinker involved with John Vervaeke and the circling movement. We discuss the experience of the world, its intelligibility and how it points to God. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VBL4Jr_290 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

19 Jan 20211h 28min

137 - Diving Into Dante's Divine Comedy

137 - Diving Into Dante's Divine Comedy

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I discuss the general symbolism of the Divine Comedy, its relation to other narratives and its important role in the re-enchanting culture today. The discussion was given to a reading group which included Franco Gallippi, an expert on Italian Culture who has taught at McMaster University. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R2N5v4sN9A My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

15 Jan 20211h 30min

136 - Adam Friended - Religion and Materialism

136 - Adam Friended - Religion and Materialism

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Adam Friended is an artist and Youtube commentator. He has been involved in the Atheist - Theist debates since the arrival of Jordan Peterson. We go over my discussion with Rationality Rules and move on to discuss the importance of a cosmological frame and the limits of Bret Weinstein's Metaphorical Truth. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLJd1-tRpiY My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

10 Jan 20211h 37min

135 - November Q&A

135 - November Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau November Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0eA0875G_o My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

6 Jan 20212h 8min

134 - Rationality Rules - Possibilities and Limits of Metaphorical Truth

134 - Rationality Rules - Possibilities and Limits of Metaphorical Truth

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Stephen Woodford of Rationality Rules has a Youtube channel which attempts to debunk spurious arguments for God and Religion. We discuss Bret Weinstein's notion of "metaphorical truth", its possibilities and limits. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Sdas8_c04 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

2 Jan 20211h 16min

133 - Rod Dreher - Preparing for a Soft Totalitarian Future

133 - Rod Dreher - Preparing for a Soft Totalitarian Future

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I discuss his new book, Live Not By Lies: a Manual for Christian Dissidents, with Rod Dreher. We explore the increasing systems of control coupled within a increasing culture war in which corporations have taken a side. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zkfRa5NMFQ My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

28 Dec 202055min

132 - Sargon of Akkad - New Atheist Failure

132 - Sargon of Akkad - New Atheist Failure

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau This event was organized by Thinkspot. www.thinkspot.com Sargon's (Carl Benjamin) channels: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCitU2-w3XE8ujvUZjcAnhIg https://www.youtube.com/user/SargonofAkkad100 Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV9UnChaLmk My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

22 Dec 20201h 10min

131 - Tom Holland - Discussing Dominion

131 - Tom Holland - Discussing Dominion

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Tom Holland is a best selling author who's recent book "Dominion" has been making waves in the post-secular crowd because it examines the Christian frame by which even atheists and anti-theists motivate their actions. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qGfkFlZKgA My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

17 Dec 202052min

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