359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR2PYtLLnI) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Vp_08T0Ucik

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:42 - Intro music
02:07 - Introduction
05:07 - John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
08:49 - Why Christian faith?
15:38 - Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
18:27 - The current dialogos
21:10 - Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
25:52 - Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
32:20 - Grief and the qualities of love
37:40 - Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
41:43 - Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
44:49 - John: Being is good / Not escape
46:54 - Jonathan: Theosis
49:25 - What if this is a crypto-egoism?
55:26 - Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
01:01:29 - Zen: Does the infinite love you?
01:11:39 - Intimacy
01:22:18 - We can't be meta
01:27:47 - Universalism
01:29:01 - We each have our callings
01:30:21 - John and Christianity

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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

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114 - John Vervaeke - Original Sin and the Meaning Crisis

114 - John Vervaeke - Original Sin and the Meaning Crisis

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau This is a discussion I had with John Vervaeke's for his podcast Voices with Vervaeke. We discuss a reinterpretation of Original Sin, Covid the protest and how the meaning crisis has been brought into our bodies. Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJDFhLSRC4 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

21 Aug 20201h 29min

113 - July Q&A

113 - July Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau July Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtYs5Zm0qWM My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

13 Aug 20201h 31min

112 - Jordan Peterson and the Stories We Live In

112 - Jordan Peterson and the Stories We Live In

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I look at the effect of Jordan Peterson on culture, the similarities in our thought as well as my differences with him regarding the importance of stories. This essay was commissioned by Word On Fire with the original title: "Faith, Film, and the Stories We Live in." Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsRnW6baO0 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

6 Aug 202020min

111 - Kanye West for President

111 - Kanye West for President

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We look at the meaning of Kanye West running for president, and how in his frantic appeals, appears the most basic wisdom as the fool turns the world back to order. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wbxVVKr89g My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

30 Juli 202024min

110 - Nicholas Kotar - Fairy Tales are Better Than Vaccines

110 - Nicholas Kotar - Fairy Tales are Better Than Vaccines

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Nicholas Kotar discusses the importance of story telling in the crisis that we are facing. We discuss Covid and the Georg Floyd protests as well as his own writings. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfhFlpJJYaQ My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

23 Juli 202051min

109 - June Q&A

109 - June Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau June Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7foO9NjPnrA My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

15 Juli 20201h 48min

108 - Casting Down Images

108 - Casting Down Images

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We explore the meaning of the casting down of statues and other symbols of history. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdW1WA2n0lE My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

8 Juli 202019min

107 - Why the Protests Look So Religious

107 - Why the Protests Look So Religious

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We look at why the George Floyd protests used so much religious imagery. From kneeling and chanting to contrition and acts of communion, the protests used catharsis as a means to a form of religious ecstasy, which was made more intense because of the Covid-19 lockdown. We even look at the trope of Human Sacrifice appearing in the narrative. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7GZHEuOpO4& My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

30 Juni 202019min

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